Cintiq Recommendations
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My Intuos4 died and now I'd like to make the jump to a Cintiq.
I've been researching (too much). It's between the 13HD and the 22HD. I tried them out in the store and I liked them both, but the 13HD felt a bit more natural (and cheaper), but my worry is that the 13HD is too small for modeling/sculpting work, and beyond that, it's just a matter of fitting into a new workflow since I've been using an intuos for so long.
Anyone have any real-world experience thoughts on the 13 vs the 22 in zbrush, or even in day to day use? I'd even be open to the 22HD touch, but it felt to me like it was poorly implemented and my pen hand kept initiating the touch feature accidentally, but maybe that's a driver issue that would be fixed down the road if touch is integrated into zbrush (big 'if'). Thanks so much.
I've been researching (too much). It's between the 13HD and the 22HD. I tried them out in the store and I liked them both, but the 13HD felt a bit more natural (and cheaper), but my worry is that the 13HD is too small for modeling/sculpting work, and beyond that, it's just a matter of fitting into a new workflow since I've been using an intuos for so long.
Anyone have any real-world experience thoughts on the 13 vs the 22 in zbrush, or even in day to day use? I'd even be open to the 22HD touch, but it felt to me like it was poorly implemented and my pen hand kept initiating the touch feature accidentally, but maybe that's a driver issue that would be fixed down the road if touch is integrated into zbrush (big 'if'). Thanks so much.
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I really like it. But again I use a laptop and work pretty mobile. ZBrush, Phoshop, etc works fine though.
after how many years of usage?
I just bought one last week. :poly122:
Try them before buying one. Another point to consider is the color coverage. As far as i noticed, the 22HD is better than the 24HD.
About 2 1/2 years of usage. The USB port broke off my Intuos4 Wireless. It's a documented problem with the hardware, so be careful. Mine is out of warranty now, and Wacom said they would fix it for 120 bucks, but I figured I should just move on. I thought about replacing it with a Yiynova (out of spite), but unfortunately I like the feel of the Cintiq.
It seemed like the 13HD did a pretty good job there, which is where I'm leaning against my better judgement.
I thought the lag was dis concerning at first too, but I got used to it, and don't even notice it.
Then again if you sketch super fast I see how that could effect you long term.
If anyone want to prevent their Intuos4 from breaking, order one of these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/25cm-Mini-USB-Type-B-5Pin-Female-male-90-Right-Angle-Adapter-Sync-Charge-Cable-/170788918342?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160
and I tapped to my Intuos4 tablet, I can unplug it and plug it back in as much as I want without having to remove the cable extension from the tablet, it shouldn't ever break if it never becomes unplugged. I tend to unplug my tablet a lot so I wanted to be extra safe.
If you can afford it, I would recommend going with the 22hd. If you would prefer the portability of the 13hd...its not a bad purchase but you do end up losing out on that screen real estate.
Fits very nicely in my laptop bag, which is a HUGE plus for a college student like myself.
Just kidding. Or not.
I may go with the 13HD for now, then get the Yiynova 22" HD MVP22U when it comes out (if it gets good reviews). The total cost will come out to about the same as a Cintiq 22HD.
I guess it really comes down to portability vs screen real estate. Thanks for the advice it helps a great deal.
I wouldnt recommend that as I dont believe you can have both wacom drivers and the yiynova's drivers installed at the same time. Furthermore it uses vga input, has a bad lcd panel, a non textured surface and more importantly a very springy pen. I would stick to wacom for now.
Yikes. You're right. That's good to know. Thanks.
Has anyone here used the multitouch features on the Cintiqs?
Thanks for the tip.
Unfortunately mine disconnects really easily when I move the tablet and only plugging out the cable from tablet's usb port and plugging it back fixes it.
Too bad I never heard or saw anyone mention this issue before I bought it...
you can have more than one wacom driver and settings, that is exactly the reason why you have wacom tablet properties in control panel in a first place.
you can customize each wacom tablet settings over there
Keep in mind a cintiq is absolutely not a necessity, just a nicer alternative.
Did you have to buy directly from Wacom to get that return policy or can you buy from a reseller and send it back to Wacom?
Still trying to decide whether or not to opt for the touch feature. It's hard to find info on whether or not that is useful.
This is not just in response to what you said specifically, but more for those who want a cintiq and just cant afford it atm.
Saving money is key. When I was a waiter during the college years, by saving up and spending smart not only was I able to pay for life and school expenses but I also was able to get those little high priced luxuries along the way. A little bit adds up fast if do indeed save. For example, have a jar and whenever you can afford it, slip between $1 and $10 into it. Check where it is in a few months. The amount may surprise you.
Also finding good deals is important too. For example, I nabbed the 20wsx awhile back for $1000 and the girl I bought it from only used it maybe 3-4 times in her entire life. I have seen on Craigslist people selling them without knowing their value or just not caring (one person was asking for $300 for example). The 13hd I bought was the same price, but by that time I had quite a bit saved up in order to splurge on those kinds of things. When money is tight, micro managing and keeping an eye out for the deals are your two best friends.
Ultimately, the worth of a cintiq depends on how much you would use it. It is worth the price point in my opinion, though we can probably all agree that the price point itself is a bit exploitative...what we get out of using it can make all the difference in the world.
So I'm thinking about going for a cintiq 13HD instead. I have a intuos 3 which I've been using for the past 4 years. It's nice, but I'm looking for a natural feel which I'm hoping to gain with using a cintiq.
My main concern is that I've been reading great things about it and finally landed on some reviews on newegg where people complain about the quality of the glass/display as being shabby. One review admits that the glass/display is being scratched by the stylus pens themselves from use. Does anyone read/heard about this being true?
And even if it's the pen, just get a plastic screen protector. Problem solved. It comes covered with a plastic film, so I would think you could probably use that if you wanted to be cheap about it.
I bought mine through a Amazon 3rd party seller, they should all come with the same warranty. When I reported faults they'd take the model number and then tell me to print on the Cintiq box the Wacom test center depot address and a number which I think is the faulty code. They picked it up and it went straight to Wacom's test center. The same delivery guy had the replacement one to exchange. I never paid for delivery of returns. I think this would be the same procedure for any 3rd party seller.
I have not tried the touch feature version, but it's a big premium to pay. I do not find the 24HD lacking in any way, I utilise all the express keys and work pretty fast; so I don't think pinching and moving would make much difference. But if you have the funds...