Female Base Mesh | Feedback needed

PyrZern

Mostly I do box-modeling. And I'm trying to get into sculpting, texturing, and animating (least priority at this point, however)

So, this one here is my base mesh that I have been using, projects after projects; each time it's getting updated and hopefully better.

Questions I have now is; will this mesh be good to sculpt on ?
Also, will this mesh deform or animate well ?

I would love to learn and improve in those two regards the most at the moment.

Secondary objectives are; topology and anatomy. How can I improve them further ?


Female Base Mesh (View in 3D)





Thanks for your time, folks. If you need more shots from different angles, just say the word !

DWalker

The proportions are well off - while the height is reasonable at ~8 heads, the mesh gets progressively broader from the head to the feet. The shoulders are narrow (1.6 vs 2 heads wide), but the hips are too thick (1.8 heads vs. 1.5) and the thighs, calves, and feet remain too thick. While I realize the proportions are for an idealized female rarely seen in real-life (any more than real men match their ideal counterparts), they are a good starting point. I tend to like this image as a good starting point, but the waist probably is a bit too small:


The site at http://www.idrawdigital.com/2009/01/tutorial-anatomy-and-proportion/ has some good tips on human proportions, although it's admittedly geared towards comic-book proportions.

PyrZern

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that till someone points it out. Guess I been influenced a lot by many artists who aim for more hourglass shape. I will adjust her figure a bit. Not too much though. I still kinda like wider hips and all. Just maybe not this wide. And smaller lower half in general.

PyrZern

Decided to rework on torso's topology as well.

PyrZern

Re-made the chest area. It's weird. Those nice topo lines had to end somewhere and it kinda ruined the nice flow <_<" But otherwise, there would be too many lines where I don't want em.

crazyfool

hi, hope you dont mind but Ive done a paintover of a few things I try to do so the mesh sculpts nicely and can also be reused to make things like clothing from or even use as a low poly mesh. take with a pinch of salt though as the paintover is really quick and more to give you an idea on my approach, My basemesh changes alot too haha

- avoid poles like the plague, when zbrush smooths it will smooth away from the pole and you get stuck with uneven poly distribution and a lump that needs further editing down the line. Best advice is to hide them best you can, On my example they are on the corner of the rib cage, the belly button, the niple and then on the inner clav, these are places that require little sculpting and so work quite well

- some places you will need more res, like the niples and abs so having a slightly denser mesh in these places (only slight) means that your subdivs wont go too high and you have a nice level of control

- Shoulders!!! lots of different ways, I like the full edge loops approach which allows more movement, it also excludes poles from the deltoids which can cause issue if you chose to give more res to the delts and close the edgeloops in doing so, only problem with the full edgeloop approach is sometimes if you are sculpting a relaxed T pose then you lose a bit of res on the shoulder/delts, so just add another edgeloop with goz maybe if that happens. Its all quads still just they bunch up under the arm pit a bit more. Animators should love you in low poly aspects too as its alot easier to skin. Ive also done a side shot on how I connect the arms to the body, this is so you can keep the clean polyflow going throughout the model

the main thing is to keep consistent edgeflow and polydistribution where appropriate, try to stay away from tris too, the more you fiddle though the more you will find out





just saw you added another post haha, what you have will work fine but you may get some issues in zbrush, You have nice shapes going on so if you really wanted to try some of these techniques out you could just smooth/turbosmooth what you have and then retop some of it. The chest actually looks great, the back is where you might find most issue now

also be careful of your shoulders arching back like that, you actually want a bit more back than arm there, this still applies to females but to a smaller degree

PyrZern

Thanks for the paintover, man.
I love playing around with topology. Unfortunately I have little to no experience when it comes to sculpting or animating, so I dunno how to optimize a mesh for them.

And, this is what I have right now.
All quads so far

PyrZern

Decided to end the loops here. Good idea, bad idea ? What have experience taught you guys about this one ? Can't add more res to the breasts area, or there will be loads more topo-lines to end.

PyrZern

Retopologize her arms and legs as well.

Will beef her up a bit, seeing as now she's super skinny O o' Wonder how this topology will flow... Thoughts ?

PyrZern

Tried different approach to body topology.