SpeedTree Collision Problem

noxtech

In image you can see loaded Billboard. there is collision. So from one side you can walk into tree from other can't touch tree. So how to fix billboard place, that it loaded in same place as actual tree. I think collision is done with billboard, so i need just to fix billboard.

noxtech

wtf... now collision works good but on new placed. And billboard still loads same.

noxtech

Old placed tree:

New placed tree:


In images you can see where is collision... Plz some1 tell me how to fix this.

noxtech

Here is SpeedTree Modeler: (For me it looks like it have to work perfectly... but that collision is killing me...

Obscura

hmm i don't know, but in the speetree editor your model is not on the 0,0 coordinate.Maybe the problem is with this.because the 0,0 is in the same distance from the tree, and where is your collision model in udk.
but maybe I'm talking bullshit, i never used speedtree.
Also collisions are not billboards.They are invisible meshes or bsp's
http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/CollisionReference.html
http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/FBXStaticMeshPipeline.html#Collision

Jacky

I don't think billboard has anything to do with collision. It's just what you should be seeing when you are very far away from the tree.

noxtech

i didn't ment that billboard is collision just collision is in place where billboard is. Sry for my poor eng

noxtech

and i test with coords. sound's logical

noxtech

coords didn't helped. same shit just biilboard better spawn. but still not good...

Obscura

Deleting the base collision, and using built from the builder brush collision?Is it possible with speedtree models?

Or maybe this?
http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/759698-SpeedTree-Collision-problems-And
Maybe you just need to play with the settings more.

noxtech

Have readed this link already. done same, actually its only 1 wey to add collision. I think its not speedtree soft prob. its something with udk. but its just my guesses.

noxtech

will try something with udk collision editor

noxtech

changed my mind, collision with builder brush is bad

noxtech

:DDD Now thats....

Obscura

If you set up the collision inside speedtree, the problem must be coming from there. just try to use another settings when you add collision.

noxtech

making totaly new

noxtech

New:


And notice that when you play with out "game mode" with out any body, collision looks like works perfectlly, but when you enable game mode the collision changes. Like in all pictures. Can it be that's this problem is just in editor's mode?

Obscura

I dont think that. If you tried all the options in speedtree, and nothing working, then i recommend to make your own tree in a modeling software, so you can use your custom collision for it.

Obscura

or i have one more idea.if you select one tree and hit f4, then scroll to the translation, the translation is on 0,0,0?

noxtech

yea all 0

noxtech

Ah, leaving this for now. Party is w8ing

noxtech

http://udkresources.com/index.php/speedtrees/

noxtech

All my search for this problem just waste... All what can i find just tutorial's how to create, same and same and same... Can any one tell me what is this... Is it just me having this "perfect" collision. Can any pro test this and tell me solution or what ever the case.

CarlK3D

Ok.... so your having problems with the Collision of the Tree? Or Collision of the Gun? because your images show you firing around the Tree but the gun doesn't leave a mark.

I'll just run through a list and make sure you've done all these because I just tried the "Generate Collision Primitives" in SpeedTree and it works perfect for me in UDK.
Some of these might not be relevant to collision but this is what I just did and it works
1. Once you've finished Modeling the Tree and selected "Generate Collision Primitives
" did you use default settings?
2. when you Add your Tree into SpeedTree Compiler did you select Merge Billboards into Texture Atlas
3. Once you imported the Tree into UDK did you save your Packages out? to update the Tree's settings? I had to close my scene and re-open to get the Tree visible and for the Collision to setup.
if you did the 3 steps and nothing more, didn't change any settings I don't see any reason why you would be having Collision issues.

Let me know what you think & the basic problem your having is, its hard to tell

noxtech

I made image with gun for you to see where is that collision. And this collision is for all. Yes all steps done. and what funny that diferent tree have diferent collision place, as you see in images

noxtech

Have done more then 1 tree and all with this wtf collision. have even saved runed off udk -> on and same...

CarlK3D

what version of UDK are you using? might be a bug, I see no reason why your Tree is different to mine

noxtech

last

CarlK3D

I only way the Collision could be off is that the Collision is either moved or you've generated collision and the Tree has moved in Speed Tree Modeler. When you click "Randomize all" under the Random Seeds Tab in SpeedTree Modeler it does move the Trees Coords in Speed Tree but not the Collision Box. I don't think that's the case but Its a possibility.

CarlK3D

Also you say you've tried more then 1 Tree? If you want, Try Importing my Tree and Testing the Collision to make sure UDK is not at Fault - http://www.mediafire.com/?geec0v253dotpo3
Also Under your Package Name Click Unload after you've saved the package.

noxtech

why to unload?

noxtech

i think i know problem. try to play game with out game tyme and run into tree. collision works perfectlly. and then change to UTEntryGame.

CarlK3D

If an object is not fully loaded upon importing it just doesn't seem to work well with UDK, Might not have to do with Collision so much but my Tree was messing up until I Unloaded it. Just covering all bases

noxtech

yea, with all game types collision bad. with out type its works good. but still wtf and billboard load in that place/center where is collision

CarlK3D

ok, When I was learning I was told to use Game Type "utgame" no caps. Try that
All the Games types work fine for me, not sure why that's that case for you

noxtech

CarlK3D

If your referring to the fact that the collision is off, thats my bad I was messing around with the Randomize in SpeedTree Modeler so that one is wrong link heres the fixed one. but if you've fixed the problem its all good
http://www.mediafire.com/?jchlo3fn5mnw2qg

noxtech

YES...! fack yea this works goood! can you make screen from speedtree modeler what parameters you done

noxtech

or any explanation... coz all tut. what i have found is bull****

noxtech

ohh lol i have you tree to mutch excited

noxtech

THX.!

noxtech

oh, can't open in modeler. its compiled

CarlK3D

Glad to help
heres my Tree Properties, I think that's what you wanted
http://postimg.org/image/9lmzyopdd/full/

SpeedTree Model - http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2sf0fxyedsikel1

noxtech

still need your screen of parameters or give not compiled tree

noxtech

better give me your file.

noxtech

BIG THX, love you

CarlK3D

No problem, If you have any more questions or requests with something in UDK, I'd be happy to look into it or do a tutorial on my website - http://carlkdesign.wordpress.com/
Or you can Email me at carlkent94@gmail.com

noxtech

NICE.! will look forward