Against - Windows tablet input service
Hey everyone,
Every wacom user who works on windows will know of this problem, this curse.
I am talking ofcourse about: WINDOWS TABLET INPUT SERVICE.
That annoying little cirle appearing to pause every thing you do for a few seconds. That never ending torture which is so hard to eradicate from your pc.
Well, that bothers me too. But appearantly, you, me and thousands of other tablet users can go fuck ourselves because Microsoft is ignoring and improving this problem. Customer service +1
My goal is to get Microsofts attention, so that they can finally deal with this shitty driver. In order to do so (and vent my frustration) I've taken the initiative of starting this facebook page. So that when it has alot of followers I can send a link to microsofts customer service, head office, whatever, and demonstrate that this really is a problem that needs to be fixed urgently.
It really needs to go!
Please join the cause here:
https://www.facebook.com/antiwindowstabletinputservice
Every wacom user who works on windows will know of this problem, this curse.
I am talking ofcourse about: WINDOWS TABLET INPUT SERVICE.
That annoying little cirle appearing to pause every thing you do for a few seconds. That never ending torture which is so hard to eradicate from your pc.
Well, that bothers me too. But appearantly, you, me and thousands of other tablet users can go fuck ourselves because Microsoft is ignoring and improving this problem. Customer service +1
My goal is to get Microsofts attention, so that they can finally deal with this shitty driver. In order to do so (and vent my frustration) I've taken the initiative of starting this facebook page. So that when it has alot of followers I can send a link to microsofts customer service, head office, whatever, and demonstrate that this really is a problem that needs to be fixed urgently.
It really needs to go!
Please join the cause here:
https://www.facebook.com/antiwindowstabletinputservice
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Do some research and put a little effort instead of "It's not how i want it, change it for me".
Edit here, tell your friends.
EDIT : Which checkbox?
It's not hard at all really.
Because microsoft claims it is not their problem, instead, it is wacom's problem.
This problem with the drivers, is getting worse with each new windows version and it will continue to do so. Why? Because microsoft is more "tablet" oriented. Not wacom tablet, touch screen tablet oriented. So wacom users get put on a low priority. Link: http://viziblr.com/news/2012/8/18/windows-8-rtm-and-wacom-tablets-better-but-flawed.html
ps.
Appreciate it if you would not call this ill thought spam. I'm trying to get awareness and support so something can be done about this.
I think you've blocked something out of your memory because Flicks is not what causes the little ring to appear or any of the other crap.
I could be wrong, I haven't really messed with this in a while, but any attempts by windows or other services to re-activate it should kick you an error message if this is set to disabled:
or are there other problems I'm not aware of?
Perhaps certain updates or drivers you're installing are updating and re-activating the service? It should be a simple matter of navigating back and disabling it again, though.
As far as I know, software running on your computer day to day can only re-activate it if it's set to 'automatic' in that dropdown.
There is no reason why it shouldn't work. If it doesn't, then you did something wrong. I don't see why you need to start a petition to force MS to fix something that is quick and easy to fix. They put the tablet service in there for a reason and anyone that can use a search engine can solve the conflict.
Clearly, MS didn't want to fork their OS further just so Wacom users (a small segment of their customers) don't have to go through a couple menus to disable the service. They wanted all tablet PC installations to go off without a hitch because a tablet that has a unresponsive touch screen is far worse than a minor drawing tablet conflict. Honestly, I think you're acting a bit entitled. If you don't like the way Windows does it, there are plenty of free OS's that you can choose from.
@Overlord, you are right. Not having any tablet input for lack of drivers is worse. However the default drivers are not working correctly either. Can I be free and try to change this for the better? Why not?
Also, just pointing out that the personal critism here is really not justified.
I'm sorry you feel that way, however, you're making a big stink over something that has a simple solution and it makes you seem unreasonable. MS isn't going to pay their expensive programmers to fix a minor issue that is user serviceable. You're wasting time and energy on a lost cause. That's why I gave the personal criticism.
This and "Tablet PC Input Service" in "services.msc" and you will be happy like it didn't existed ever.
"Services.msc" is also a good way to restart Wacom driver. I got Cintiq20WSX and sometimes after day of no use (and turned off) Windows disables monitor on second input(my Cintiq) and I have to RMB on Desktop and select "Screen Resolution->Detect" to wake up Windows to detect Cintiq again (without need to restart computer). But this may be not enough because Wacom driver may be also broken, even if it shows that it's On in Services. You have to Stop it (not Restart) and turn On again.
Umm, you realize the old Win 7 version no longer works in 8? There is a different attack using the registry, but it then adds a delay to your clicks. So its really not a solution.
The original poster has every right to start a petition. Using facebook though seems very unorganized. I would suggest using that facebook page to link to this. http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/wacom-and-microsoft-fix-the-wacom-driver-issues-and-windows-8-pen-subsystem?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=url_share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign
Overlord: While I support the open OS idea, your acting aloof and unrealistic considering our career Overlord. Until Adobe, Autodesk, Pixologic and most third party programs work in Linux while fully supporting openGL shaders, your "advice" is just a silly excuse to disregard others.
the thing that fixed everything for me was this. it just automatically makes all the changes for you, maybe i forgot one step when i did it myself.
http://viziblr.com/news/2011/8/13/fix-my-pen-makes-your-wacom-tablet-just-work-on-windows-7.html
I didn't notice the mention of Win 8. Win 8 is a monstrosity that should be avoided. If the issue is with Win 8, I retract my previous statement and apologize. The OP should have clarified that better. As bad as the Win 8 tablet issue is, I don't see how he's going to make any progress getting them to change it when so much of that OS is broken by design. Win 8 completely abandons the desktop PC and desktop users should abandon Win 8. Stick with Win 7 or XP, Win 8 is not made for professionals. It caters to PC's as an entertainment appliance rather than a tool to get work done.
I don't buy, I build.
So instead of just seeing whats in front of you, looking ahead, having this addressed now will solve you headache later.
Yeah, you're right. I forgot that little detail. Of course it would be better if it was fixed. Although, I don't think complaining will amount to any action on their part. I'd rather find solutions I can implement myself. I have no patience in waiting for MS support to fix the problem.
Linux isn't completely out of the question though. Valve has found Source engine games perform better in Linux than they do in Windows. Zbrush 4R4 and Photoshop CS6 work under Wine out of the box (i.e. they run as good as Windows native). Max is a bit more finicky since only much older version work well. Maya fails completely. Blender is making great strides in becoming a suitable alternative. The upshot of moving to Linux is that the studio can tweak the OS to their own needs, much like they create custom pipeline modules for Max and Maya.
Or as most professionals do, boycott it until the next, more stable version of windows 9 is out. I, along with most colleagues simply boycotted windows Vista and windows 7, until Windows 7 was stable and supported properly.
Due caution is all it takes to save yourself headaches and keep to your professional quota.
And companies will take every risk to productivity seriously, especially if there software/ hardware has a high risk of not working correctly.
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115445
The main issues for me are:
Click and drag delay, which makes using any software that doesn't auto-disable it horrible, and CANNOT be turned off in Windows 8 as a whole
And right-click menu lock up, which renders the quad menu and other features in Max useless, to name an example
These problems didn't exist in 7 and it really pisses me off.
It's a stupid default and it should be off by default. I can't imagine why anyone would want ring spooge everywhere they click, a delay on dragging, right click menus popping up when they click and hold for more than a 1/4 second, and all the other garbage that Windows does.
If it's an easy fix for you, that's awesome. I wish it was for all of us.
This has also worked for me and is what I use at home. But for some reason after booting windows the right click on my pen doesn't work for the first 15 minutes or so. Right click was completely disabled on my work machine with this.
A petition is totally valid.
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=14&t=862830
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=856085
and yeas - it's not as straight forward to get rid of the tablet input stuff as some people here make it sound.
I cant remember what I did to fix it, I think I renamed the file or something.
If you have preference files made for newer drivers you can still import those even if it gives an error that it's made for a newer version and isn't compatible. What you have to do is open the file with notepad and change the version number it was created for to 6.1.6-7. The pref file will then load just fine.