Where is the start line? (Drawing)
polycounter lvl 5
Hello people, I've been working as a 3D artist for 3 years now and i got to the point where i really think i'm lacking that drawing skill to get my models and textures look good and to another level.
Recently i watched the "FZD episode 59 before and after" and he said that you should work on your core fundamentals more then just drawing over and over again.
So my questions are these.
What exactly are core fundamentals?
How/Where should i start?
Can you recommend some tutorials/books/videos that can help me with my future study?
Sorry for my bad english and thanks in forward.
Recently i watched the "FZD episode 59 before and after" and he said that you should work on your core fundamentals more then just drawing over and over again.
So my questions are these.
What exactly are core fundamentals?
How/Where should i start?
Can you recommend some tutorials/books/videos that can help me with my future study?
Sorry for my bad english and thanks in forward.
Replies
http://ctrlpaint.com/library/
If you're doing characters I would look up information on figure drawing, and possibly try to find a center or community college that holds figure drawing classes/sessions.
Ctrlpaint looks awesome.
I'm not a character artist, but i'm trying to learn that too. will check it out.
by the way how much time should i spend drawing each day?? not to much to over burn my self and not to little that wont help me... whats the middle ground???
For me this would be the start line in drawing. :thumbup:
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I've spended a couple of hours today watching Ctrl+Paint and practicing and i'm starting to get why core fundamentals are so important. Also Ctrl+Paint haves so much tutorials and they are arranged in right order from start/beginner to finish/pro. Now i just need to make my self get that drawing habit maybe getting a sketch book or something...
Again thanks a lot everybody for posting.
C-C-C-Compton?
there are some high schools that have art program but that's just for students and its only on weekends and few people who teaches for money... that's why i said drawing outside my house its not really a option :poly124:
When I was in college, the best drawing course I took was one where we would do about 60 2x3 foot (roughly .6x3 meters) drawings in three hours. Every two minutes or so, the model would switch poses and we'd have to start over again. The amount of progress each student made in a matter of ten weeks was amazing! Sure, most of our drawings sucked, but every so often you'd pull a gem out of nowhere.
I still practice like this today. It's active, fun, and the sheer volume of work you're making means you'll encounter and solve many problems very quickly. I'd treat it exactly like a workout routine, devote 20mins to an hour a day and you should see noticeable improvement very quickly.
The other thing you might try is focused learning. If you're bad at drawing a particular thing, draw the hell out of it for a few sessions.
Hope that helps.
Anyway i always try to keep my self motivated and ill do my best to learn... and if i draw something worth showing i will post it
I think the important thing is too push yourself a little outside of your comfort zone, but not so far that you get frustrated.
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Everything is based upon that.
You can make cool drawings with depth without anatomy, but not without perspective. (albeit probably more robots and environments!)
hmm, i dunno about that. i've seen plenty of artists who sucked at perspective and would still get regular illustration contracts.
They could get away with that precisely because of "coolness". for example they would be experts at spectacular realistic rendering and painting pretty faces, and is what most of common people focus on when looking at pics.
i've also seen lots of concept artists who weren't too great at perspective but still could deliver badass character designs.
I'm not saying that it's not important (in fact i suck at it and i'm not happy about it at all) but i wouldn't say it's more important than other basics.
It depends on what is one's focus, if it's enviro, creature concepts, hand painted textures, platformer sprites, portraits, digital painting in general, matte painting etc etc.
I have an art professor who said the same thing.
She says perspective mostly applies to drawing architecture. Humans are too organic or have vanishing points going everywhere so it doesn't matter as much.
Although, I still use perspective as a guide for body part visibility.
The start line is when you pick up a pencil / tablet and put down your keyboard / mouse. aka, get off forums and just DRAW!
It's also not a terribly good way to set up perspective in my opinion because the lines don't converge on the horizon so it doesn't address the most tedious task of perspective (measurement)
You're infinitely better off just blocking out your scene in sketchup.
Hehe thats a good point
Seen that app before i guess it can be useful somewhere...
You can use the 2 in conjunction. Block out your scene in SketchUp, take a screen shot, paste it into Carapace and use the trace lines to set up a perspective grid. Now you not only have a blockout in 3D you have the grid to go with it!
Check this out:
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/perspective-grid-utility/
I've only seen the videos and they all seem to use evenly spaced fans which is less useful in my opinion than setting up your vanishing points with guides in photoshop because at least in photoshop you can control where your perspective lines are rather than trying to eyeball it from the ones that are drawn out of the fan. Admittedly trying to do this over a blockout would be a pain in the ass in photoshop but at least it is an option.