Darksiders inspired Chaoseater

SamFisher45

Hey guys, I have been playing the game Darksiders recently and I fell in love. So I decided to test my sculpting skills and model out the Chaoseater from the game.

This is the base mesh




Didn't actually focus at creating any forms just yet. Wanted to test my sculpting skills.

Here's the sculpting done. Rendered out in a slight reflective type clay straight from zbrush.




Sculpted using dynamesh. Contains around 8 million polys... Then I used decimation master to get something like this.


The maps [4096 by 4096] - maps scaled down to 2048x2048 when using DXShader (Marmoset toolbag!!!)

Normal Map:


AO Map:


Diffuse Map:


Specular map:


Ahhh, this is the final render from Marmoset...


After a little bit of professionalisation in Photoshop :poly121:

Thats the final output...

Suggest ways in which I can make my render better. Criticisms are welcome. Basically I love criticisms and I believe that its the best way to learn.


Check out some of my other works in this website :
http://www.dipayan-gfx.webs.com

SamFisher45

Oh yes, here's a screenshot to the popular game Darksiders:

Squals

Hey Sam, Good choice on the weapon, I did the same one last year. Was alot of fun.

Jet_Pilot

i cant see any spec in your render. Do you know you have to turn spec ON in marmoset? Your diffuse colors look muddy. your using 4k texture maps but it looks like 512. 10K in tris is WAYYYYY to many. Something like that i would say 3K would be my max, but someone else could correct me. Kill all the polys that don't effect your silhouette, and just rely on your Normal and Diffuse for those parts.

SamFisher45

Thats great!! Give me some tips on how did you get the cool lighting...

SamFisher45

Jet_Pilot wrote: »

i cant see any spec in your render. Do you know you have to turn spec ON in marmoset? Your diffuse colors look muddy. your using 4k texture maps but it looks like 512. 10K in tris is WAYYYYY to many. Something like that i would say 3K would be my max, but someone else could correct me. Kill all the polys that don't effect your silhouette, and just rely on your Normal and Diffuse for those parts.

I actually didnt retopo, I used decimation master directly... so it came to such a high polycount... I somehow could not get crisp renders from marmoset. Dont know what the problem is. Just finished it yesterday... Can you enlighten me about creating good lighting for my models?

PhoenixWolf

Squals wrote: »

Hey Sam, Good choice on the weapon, I did the same one last year. Was alot of fun.

well done mang

Sukotto

Using decimation master as a surrogate for retopo is a bad idea. I can see a lot of bad shading errors on the blade because of the triangulation. Like Jet_Pilot said, 10k tris is way too much for something like this, same as having a 4K map. You could probably get the same resolution from a 1024 and not lose too much detail. This is a hero character so 10k tris and 4k textures is too much.

As for presentation, Marmoset has a good lighting tutorial on their website. Definitely give it a read. And your spec map needs a lot of work, the sword is metal so it should have a much brighter spec value not just on the edge of the blade.

A good effort but it lacks a bit of focus

SamFisher45

Ok i'll rework on the topology and bake the maps again. Will post updates soon... some links about correct lighting in marmoset would be really helpful... :-)

JoshWilkinson

SamFisher45 wrote: »

Ok i'll rework on the topology and bake the maps again. Will post updates soon... some links about correct lighting in marmoset would be really helpful... :-)

Typing "marmoset tutorial" into YouTube yielded some expected results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgqApp0le1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cI6IP6ihjY

Popol

In addition to everything that has been said, you should should definitely add a cavity map to your diffuse. It's quite a shame that you spent time to sculpt it and lose almost all the details in your low poly renders. A cavity would solve that.

SamFisher45

Popol wrote: »

In addition to everything that has been said, you should should definitely add a cavity map to your diffuse. It's quite a shame that you spent time to sculpt it and lose almost all the details in your low poly renders. A cavity would solve that.

Never heard of a cavity map. I have an AO map baked... Is it a different sort of map which gets lots of details? Whats a cavity map? Any help? And how do I make a cavity map?

JoshWilkinson

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+cavity+map&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Jet_Pilot

Popol wrote: »

In addition to everything that has been said, you should should definitely add a cavity map to your diffuse. It's quite a shame that you spent time to sculpt it and lose almost all the details in your low poly renders. A cavity would solve that.

Yes, overlay your cavity map onto your diffuse will really help make edges pop, and should give you a good start for stylizing it.

Popol

SamFisher45 wrote: »

Never heard of a cavity map. I have an AO map baked... Is it a different sort of map which gets lots of details? Whats a cavity map? Any help? And how do I make a cavity map?

There are several ways to generate a cavity map. I do it with Xnormal, go into Tools > Normal to cavity. You should look for tutorials on the Xnormal official site if you are not familiar with this program.

Once you've got your cavity set it on overlay on top of your diffuse and tweek the levels until you get the right look.