environment from concept

cisherwood

For Zbrush 2 I have decided to choose the Star Wars universe to take concept from and model an environment for the UDK engine. For this I am using a piece of concept by Chris Ocampo who has done several bits of concept for the new star wars 1313 game which can be found here [ONLINE] Available at: http://chrisocampo1.blogspot.co.uk/.Progress will be added on a weekly basis.

concept piece


building & road seperation


small assets

PhoenixWolf

good luck

Adij

my 3 cents:



Also u can reuse the front of middle building on the side

cisherwood

cheers for the breakup its exactly how I have started blocking out the model

cisherwood

some block out progress, majority is modular for work in zbrush.

cisherwood

Asset List

1. wall/window fram 2. boarder 3. walkway 4. watertank 5. pillar 6. window/shutter 7. curved wall 8. wall face 9. boarder 2 10. door 11. pillar 2 12. boarder 3 13. shutter door 14. pillar 3 15. wall/shutter mechanism 16. pipe 17. wall face 2 18. cloth cover 19. window 20. turbine 21. wall section 22. railings 23. turbine wall 24. upper building wall 25. boarder 4 26. balcony 27. road

smaller assets
windows
pipes x7
neon lights x4
cables
rubbish - bottles, paper, scraps
junk pile - box, bag, tires, paper, rope ties
road grate


assets in zbrush



process of getting assets ready for zbrush with even poly flow (low poly - divided up using connect - with turbo smooth)

cisherwood

some zbrush WIP

pavement 1

shop window

pillar

upperwall for shop

shutter

sleeper

water tank

cisherwood

majority of the environment has being blocked out some little things to change and add most assets have had some zbrush work done to them.

Borgleader

Nice progress I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.

cisherwood

onto the last things now like the rubbish and signs.

cisherwood

changed the rubbish in the bottom left corner for a speeder I done today just got to unwrap it then everything in the scene is ready for texturing.

cisherwood

speeder with basic material id's

cisherwood

so far this is the kind of texturing route I am taking example shown in udk its the garage door and surround with its pillars

pixelpatron

You have a nice scene going here, yet the low polyness of your hanging wires is really distracting. The placement is a little odd as well. I know the concept has them coming out the middle of the panels on the left, yet it just looks weird. I'd find a better solution.

cisherwood

cheers for the feedback the low poly pipes are just a place holder at the minute and ill definitely go back and look at the placement

cisherwood

current textures

reusable wall 2


pillar


garage surround


bilboard



shopfront


sleeper

current textures

cisherwood

walkway


shutter


power box


shop sign


pillar


reusable wall


pipe


pillar


wall part


wall


wall2

cisherwood

pipe


pipe


turbine


pipes


pavement


pavement 2


bridge pipes


bridge

walklikethis

can't help but feel you are just putting your diff maps through crazybump or something... which is great for somethings... but it will lack the depth and often become very noisy.. just something to watch for.

cisherwood

this is what's in engine as of today. It is missing a few assets to make it complete and its just lit by 2 standard lights at the moment.

RitualSynergY

Hey man, cool work going on in here. I really feel your textures could use a bit of tweaking though. To me it looks like you ran them through dDo in a hurry. I would try and step back and think about telling a story through the textures a bit, and to try and start thinking about the scenes overall composition/color palette.

As it stands right now, your scenes colors are all over the place and I really can't find a comfortable focal point. Keep it up though man you have been pumping away.

Dubzski

Ya i agree with people on the textures. I really liked the AO shot with just the bike and the environment... not very keen on the textures.

Perhaps do a paint over and unify the colours a bit more. Right now the buildings each have a differant colour scheme and it pulls the eye all over the place.

Instead of jumping straight into texturing everything at once, build up areas and see what works then roll that treatment across the rest of the environment.

JoshWilkinson

Like Dubzski has pointed out, the AO render is your strongest piece so far. I would suggest muting the textures down to a very monochromatic aesthetic and let the primary amount of your color come from lighting.

Looking at your concept, there is a huge emphasis on browns and greys and majority of the color comes from lighting; not the texturing. Yes, some color can be applied to the texture but it's very subtle and doesn't interrupt the general color pallette.

Cordell Felix

cisherwood wrote: »

changed the rubbish in the bottom left corner for a speeder I done today just got to unwrap it then everything in the scene is ready for texturing.

yup, agreed with the above. Textures look rushed and dDo filtered to the MAX.
The AO render you got going looks fucking great. get that FOV in unreal back into place to match the concept.

For the textures, don't rely on dDo to do everything. When I use dDo..I use a couple of their filters like the acid or generic dust and THATS ALL. it looks like you are using over 5 of their presets. limit yourself to a few single filters and then do the rest by hand. Reduce the noise also, your normal maps are very noisy.

I'd say stick with the acid filter, dust and the leaks for the textures with dDo. then just do the rest with simple colors.

Keep going man, this scene is going to look sweet!

cisherwood

I totally agree with you all I was just looking at it in engine last night and hated how none of it seemed to fit thanks to the texturing. So I have gone back looked at the concept and picked out the 3 main colours from each of the buildings to rebuild the texturing

cisherwood

ok so iv had a little go at changing the textures on the two front buildings to a more brown and grey mix. I have still got to consider what effect the lighting in the scene will have on this.

Lloydyy89

Fantastic progress so far, I really like how in depth you've gone with your blockout and model creation. I can't wait to see the final scene. :thumbup:

cisherwood

added a bit of lighting to see how it would be with spot lights from the concept granted I have not put the light sources in yet. also toned down the normals in some places as well. Now its back to re-texturing to get better composition.

cisherwood

so this is where I am with the changes so far still need to changed quite a few textures and build the current ones up and finish getting in the rest of the stuff along with the speeders textures.

cisherwood

bit more work done to the environment

cisherwood

so started having ago at texturing the speeder and also had a quick go at some colour correction
original

colour corrected

cisherwood

biggest problem I am having is the shadows. I have tried my own light maps and generated light maps from 256 to 1024 but when it comes to building lighting I am losing them all in game.

cisherwood

got to finish off the railings then I really want to have a go at the inside of the lower big building so I can remove one of the shutters just want to keep pushing it so its something I can use on a portfolio

cisherwood

tinny bit more progress got the railings in and a light/sign under the walkway for the shop as well as made a window for the lower building instead of a shutter.

cisherwood

random views

wolfonthehorizon

i feel that the geometry is all their pretty much spot on , however your lighting isnt haveing as much inpact on the scene as it does in the concept, i would really push the lighting in this scene , also some reflections on the floor would be sweet and maybe some atmospheric fog to give it that "slums" feel , looking forward to seeing the final result