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http://kotaku.com/5973641/nvidia-out-of-nowhere-announces-a-new-gaming-handheld

I dunno... this feels like a mis-step. Screens a bit small looking too. Unless it's a hundred dollars or so I can't see this taking off.

Unless of course, considering it's a touch screen, they start including 'Wii U-esque' functionality into PC games. Then hell yes!
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  • ZacD
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    ZacD ngon master
    I disliked the idea at first but there's a lot of good from it.

    -Better Tegra games and support for android, hopefully devs will make games for this and port it to android.
    -High DPI display
    -There's already a bunch of android games that would be great on this,
    -Full thumb sticks
    -Play PC games in bed
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  • Xoliul
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    Xoliul polycounter lvl 14
    I think it's a pretty good idea. It's 2 devices really; a high end android gaming device WITH a decent controller (after playing with a 360 controller on my Nexus 7, I can't go back to touch controls) and a streaming player for pc games. It's got both handheld, simple mobile games and complex high end PC games in one device, that is pretty cool!
    Android 4.2 also features wireless screen sharing apparently, so you might even be able to play pc games on your TV with this thing if you want to.
    If this is priced right and works well (easy to connect, no lag, good performance) I could really see this being an alternative to consoles. I don't have much fate in Nintendo or Sony anymore these days so I'd definitely try something else like this.
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  • JamesWild
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    JamesWild polycounter lvl 8
    TeeJay wrote: »
    And by that I mean Nintendo and Sony, not Samsung and Apple.

    I have to admit I chuckled
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  • Xoliul
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    Xoliul polycounter lvl 14
    TeeJay wrote: »
    The PC streaming thing is cool for sure, but surely the next gen of devices which will utilise the new Tegra chip will have the same functionality, and as Xoliul says, pairing a controller with them is already possible. That in itself kind of negates any unique functionality that the Shield looks to offer.

    But again, price will be a big point. A Tegra 4 phone/tablet will probably be at least 250 (if it's a superb deal like Nexus 7), more likely 400 or something. Not counting contract deals though, I never get those/not available to me. If this thing would cost 200 to 250 it would be pretty awesome, any lower and that alone should make it a success.
    Also, hooking up a 360 controller is relatively easy, but you still need the adapter cable piece, plus it's clunky to carry around and awkward to place the screen on your belly/lap while playing.
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  • ikken
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    TeeJay wrote: »
    Stick to what you do best, NVidia and leave portable gaming to the professionals. And by that I mean Nintendo and Sony, not Samsung and Apple.

    see you again when vita/xperia finally lead sony to filling for bankruptcy
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  • Rurouni Strife
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    Nvidia has a history of charging a ton of money for GPU's that have no competitor so if they feel that this has no competitor...it's going to be more than a Vita. With the memory included haha.

    Also, not that I know any of this for sure, but CES products don't necessarily ever come out. Some tech companies will just say "look what we can do" and leave it at that. I'm not 100% convinced that this is going to be a retail product. I am 100% sure it'll be redesigned somewhat before it comes out. If it does see the light of day.
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  • reverendK
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    beaming steam to a tv with a controller is the coolest potentiality i see for this. They aren't the first think about making an android based gaming specific device (ouya) but that's a nice added feature. I feel like the screen might feel a little small otherwise a lot of the time...then again i don't do much mobile gaming.
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  • Andreas
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    Andreas polycounter lvl 11
    I think, if looked at as a fancier version of that homebrew handheld that came out a while back, it would be better. What was it called, a Phantom or something? The one with the keyboard. With an SD slot, it could work. If it's hacked and cracked and jacked all up it could be good. Plus then you'd have the advantage of streaming, but only if you were in your house or at a hotspot (would it even work at any hotspot? how?). I still think the screen is a little small though.
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  • JostVice
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    Sounds good, i really like the idea of streaming steam games. I really need a way to play the steam games from my computer on the big TV, which is on another room.
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  • ironbelly
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    It got a big big meeeehhh from me.. Why on earth would I want to carry about that god awful controller with me? I think it's just a gimmick to show off their tegra chips.. No one is going to be buying a single purpose device like this, why would we when we can have this power in our phone, have a bluetooth controller and hook it up to our TV like that? And make calls, and check email, and watch porn, etc etc etc.
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  • ambershee
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    ambershee polycounter lvl 17
    The WiiU's tablet does it just fine. I would expect that this device will have no problem streaming at all. It's just a dumb terminal that interprets input, after all.
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  • biofrost
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    TeeJay wrote: »
    Ah good point. Is it the same tech used in the WiiU then? I know nothing about that kind of stuff.

    The difference here is though is WiiU is using its only wireless interface to stream the content to the controller where as this would use your existing router. So if the router is shit so will the input lag.
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  • Blaizer
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    more: http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidias_project_shield.html

    I wonder if this thing will have success... right now, i think it will be a TOTAL failure.
    The ability to play PC games is accomplished leveraging the same kind of technology that is used in NVIDIA’s commercial VDI (remote desktop) and cloud gaming technology, called NVIDIA VGX Technology. Essentially the Kepler-based technology renders a video of the gameplay as it is happening on the PC and wirelessly send it to the “Shield” or an HDTV. With NVIDIA’s Kepler architecture, they significantly improved their rendering technology so that the gaming latency would be minimized. Shield sends gameplay commands wirelessly to the gaming PC.

    So we need to have the PC turned on, wasting energy in order to play with this err... what's the word? shit?. Oh no, thanks.

    This could be considered another useless gadget for freaks.
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  • mystichobo
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    Blaizer wrote: »
    more: http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidias_project_shield.html

    I wonder if this thing will have success... right now, i think it will be a TOTAL failure.



    So we need to have the PC turned on, wasting energy in order to play with this err... what's the word? shit?. Oh no, thanks.

    This could be considered another useless gadget for freaks.

    You'll still be able to play current android games (including emulators etc) on the device without the steaming stuff, I also wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the Unreal engine reference android device (they seem to have a lot in it, from rendering the product trailer in UE4, to displaying UE screenshots on most of the promotional artwork, and also a fair bit about the console was retweeted by the UE twitter account when it was announced).

    Despite the streaming stuff, it's still an incredibly powerful standalone device.
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  • Andreas
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    mystichobo wrote: »
    I also wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the Unreal engine reference android device

    That's a very good point actually. Because the disparity in sizes/spec of Android is something that Epic openly reviles.
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  • ambershee
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    ambershee polycounter lvl 17
    I'm clearly still the only one thinking "couch multiplayer where everyone has their own screen".
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  • Blaizer
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    android games? LOL wut?

    I have a few ones installed in my xperia smartphone (it's 720p), and they are garbage seriously...
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  • Xoliul
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    Blaizer wrote: »
    android games? LOL wut?

    I have a few ones installed in my xperia smartphone (it's 720p), and they are garbage seriously...

    Dude, calm down. There's plenty of decent ones, I absolutely prefer playing on android over Nintendo and Sony's handhelds. No need for "LOL wut android is CRAP".
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  • Blaizer
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    Xoliul wrote: »
    Dude, calm down. There's plenty of decent ones, I absolutely prefer playing on android over Nintendo and Sony's handhelds. No need for "LOL wut android is CRAP".

    "plenty of decent ones"? are you kidding, aren't you? :\

    And err, you are the one that should calm down... i just wrote my opinion. You should see i'm not excited about this new useless gadget. And the same goes with that shit from Valve, "piston".

    Fuck, i already own a High End PC Gaming system, and BTW, i prefer playing on a PC because it's the best platform imho. If i want to play any game on the bed i have my wireless controller, and i turn on the 47" TV.

    Will you play angrybirds? lol
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  • Wahlgren
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    Blaizer wrote: »
    "plenty of decent ones"? are you kidding, aren't you? :\

    And err, you are the one that should calm down... i just wrote my opinion. You should see i'm not excited about this new useless gadget. And the same goes with that shit from Valve, "piston".

    Fuck, i already own a High End PC Gaming system, and BTW, i prefer playing on a PC because it's the best platform imho. If i want to play any game on the bed i have my wireless controller, and i turn on the 47" TV.

    Will you play angrybirds? lol

    Blaizer, You should calm down, you're being an asshole.

    As for this nVidia Shield thingy. I'm not entirely sure what to think of it yet. On one end I'm curious about new things and it could be interesting to see how the pc-streaming will work. Also, yay for the game industry trying out new things.

    So far i'm sceptic though. I'm one of those people that think a phone is "good enough" for handheld gaming and don't want more gadgets laying around. On the other hand it might be super sweet for flying/travelling and some home use. I'd probably prefer it more if it was an accessory to phones or something so I'm probably not their market.

    The HDMI/Display interface will be interesting. Sitting in the couch with a long ass HDMI cable can't be the most efficient way of doing it.
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  • Blaizer
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    Wahlgren wrote: »
    Blaizer, You should calm down, you're being an asshole.

    Wow, i should calm down... and then you say me i'm being an asshole. Who's the one that should calm down dude?

    And why i'm being an asshole? because of what i said of the android games?, if you say me yes... i will think you are an idiot :).

    Relax, relax, that if i think something is a garbage, you don't need to bite like a mad dog with such comments. Save them for yourself.

    EDIT: Back on topic, as other clever people are saying in other forums:
    Looks like a great hardware for toilet gaming, other than that I can't see any other use for it.

    LOL
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  • Richard Kain
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    Honestly, I don't care whether or not this Shield device ends up being a success or a failure. (financially) I'm just grateful to NVidia for making the attempt. One of the biggest drawbacks to the Android platform is that most developers don't bother working controller support into their games. A device like the Shield is going to encourage developers to start taking standard controller interfaces seriously. I can only see this as a positive trend.

    No one is forcing me to buy this thing. And I don't think NVidia is going to make the blunder of selling it at a loss. So ultimately I don't think it is going to have a negative influence on anything. If NVidia wants to roll the dice on such an initiative they are welcome to, and I applaud them for their audacity.
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  • almighty_gir
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    Blaizer, calm down man!
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  • Super
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    It's awful looking and predict it will fail miserably.
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  • mystichobo
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    mystichobo polycounter lvl 12
    http://community.playhawken.com/news/_/game-info/hawken-coming-to-nvidia-s-project-shield-portable-gaming-device

    Hawken's been announced as a release title with a native android client.
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  • gsokol
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    I dig it. I got a nexus 7 a little while ago and I really enjoy playing games on that thing. Theres some decent games on the android market.

    There seems to be quite a few android powered consoles racing to hit the market...which makes me a little uneasy...especially since they all seem to have their own specific sdk (vs just being able to throw any .apk on it like a typical android phone/tablet). I'm hoping that this trend gets us more decent quality android games.

    For the nvidia one though, I dig the clamshell-ish design, and the portability of it is nice. Also...excited to see what the tegra 4 is capable of.
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  • Junkie_XL
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    They're attempting to be the 4th competitor in console/handheld gaming. I also got the weirdest vibe that nVidia and Valve will merge soon.
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  • Andreas
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    Intel are supposed to be in talks to buy nVidia.
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  • littleclaude
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    I think this is a cool idea, I really like the idea of my mates playing on the screen while one of us has the TV

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOHNmzz1gYo
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