Snowboarder Girl, next gen character
polycounter lvl 9
Hey, figured I'd make a thread for this character as I've progressed fairly far with her so far.
There's obviously a lot more work to be done, the only bit that's mostly finished is the shoes, for some reason I always tend to do the shoes first...
Let me know what you think, and any suggestions for colour schemes would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently thinking of going for a lime green/pruple combo as shown below...
CURRENT PROGRESS!
There's obviously a lot more work to be done, the only bit that's mostly finished is the shoes, for some reason I always tend to do the shoes first...
Let me know what you think, and any suggestions for colour schemes would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently thinking of going for a lime green/pruple combo as shown below...
CURRENT PROGRESS!
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I would almost say push the hue more. The pants with that lime you have on now seems muted and military like. Also unsure if that purple/lime works.
Just for comparison:
For the rest of her, I think it's pretty awesome. You got some really natural folds in her material, which help define it really well even without the diffuse. You sculpt pretty amazing clothing.
Anyways, look forward to the end product.
Nice job on this piece so far. As for suggestion on colour/pattern scheme take a look at these :P
Th green and white one would really catch peoples eye in a sea of 3D work and could maybe help your portfolio as well. It could be a bit of a challenge to make it look right on a 3D model but i imagine the pay off would be worth it OR you could go down a more sensible route such as the red and white one, but thats a bit too gernetic for me personally.
Anyways I'll be watching this closely pal. Have fun adn Merry Christmas.
To me that looks totaly different.
Could you explain that further, please?
If you want her pants to be stressed, then have them hug the inner thigh areas much more, basically bulge on crotch > wrinkled and hugging in inner thigh > bulge again on legs and relaxed till bottom.
I agree with the nose, the ridge between the eyebrows coming down to the nose needs to be slightly harsher, you don't need to add a bulge or such, just a tiny bump and some wrinkle detail.
Hair is most likely place-holder, since ZB doesn't play with alpha's for opacity.
Color-Scheme is OK, although I would try and go for a green-scheme if possible, something like this?
Her color scheme is just screaming to get lost in the mountains, so you could maybe have a warmer/brighter hue for her clothes?
Personal question: How did you sculpt her folds? I like them, did you use Selwy's brush set or did you do it manually you crazy artist :P
thanks everyone else for the feedback and kind words.
the hair is most definately place holder, I'll model it proper and do the alpha stuff when i've made more progress.
with the colour scheme and pattern it's very much in the air at the present time, i keep changing it all the time, i think i'll need the uvs laid out and have the texture in photoshop before i have a good idea...
Ace-angel, i actually have that photo in my reference folder
As for help with cloth folds, I'm afraid I have no good tips, just observation. I don't use any brushes for cloth stuff at all, only the standard brush and move. Cloth and material has some distinctive shapes though that come up again and again and that can really help. my advice would just be study some reference and try to copy some, and you'll get the idea of how cloth behaves after a while of doing this!
Any more specific help, please ask, I'd be happy to help, I know how useful it can be when you're just starting out, or trying to master some specific ability, not that i'm any specific expert, but the more info you can get the better i guess...
Fomori, i feel like her heads not too bad sized, when i size it up she's like 7 or so heads tall, which is OK...l maybe it's her hat making her head look smaller than it is, which hopfellu won't look as noticeable when i have her hair in place and the colour scheme in etc...
haven't got too much done on her over christmas, but getting back to it now. Mostly done on the creases, boots done, think i'm done with the hat. I'm on like the 6th iteration of that fucking bandana, so hopefully i won't start hating this one for a while.
Got to do her gloves, and then go on to fixing her head, doing her hair etc
Crits and comments are very welcome, and let me know if anything looks weird or stupid
Thanks!
Close up of the hat because it took me ages and totally wasn't worth it. I wanted the texture to be in xbrush, rather than doing it after, but that would have definately been the better option because I had to jump through a load of irritating hoops to do this...
And a closeup of the boots, because they took me quite some time and i think they look quite nice, but are largely covered up by her trousers, so that was a super allocation of time by me
i modelled the stitching in max, brought in into zbrush and baked a depth mask, brought it into photoshop and made it tile, then i retopologised the hat with a poly flow that would match the flow of the weave on the hat, unwrapped it via that polyflow but also keeping the uvs straight, then I brought this back into zbrush, divided it up and projected the other hat onto it so it had the exact same shape, then used the surface feature of zbrush with the alpha created previously and the uv button clicked i tiled the alpha then flattened that onto the model, then i projected all that back onto the original hat model because that model had bad poly distribution and triangles because i retopologised it to match the hat weave direction
(deep breath)
I hope that made some semblance of sense lol because it didn't make much sense to me and I did it... The issue wasn't the alpha tiling stuff though, the problem was because the hat was quite an intricate shape and the tiling had to follow that shape, which is why I had to do all the retologising and weird uv layout. If it was on a really basic beanie, or just about any other garment in the entire world it would have been fine!
I'll post up the alpha I made and maybe make a more visual tutorial if that text made no sense
And thanks for the compliments, it means a lot!
You don't see many artist nailing the folds correctly on clothing.
I think I get it man, if you had to do it again, things like projecting it back onto a dogy mesh would be cut out though no ??
Cant argue with the results man it looks hot!
One thing i would reconsider is her bodyheight, how tall is she supposed to be?
Maybe its the fov, but she seems to be like almost 9 heads tall. with the bodyshapes like this, i would think of her beeing like 1.60m tall, maybe a bit more or less, which would end up around 6-7 headunits give or take.
I tested it in Photoshop, around 10% upscaling feels more balanced with the body as is.
If she is supposed to be really tall i'm not sure that the soft and cute facial features are the right choice - but as said i like her as is, the bodysize just doesn't come over right to me.
I wanna tackle something similar now thanks you sir.
also after reading neox post i think i agree with the proportion issue he brought up
I tried to understand your little hat tutorial and I really dont understand how you manage to get that result... But damn its looking sexy.
Love how realistic the woman look, she doesn't fall into any stereotype and it's awesome.
Once again, impressive work!
I was just wondering how you are planning on baking out those stitches on the boots. I think you either need to make them bigger and exaggerate them or give the boots a shit tonne of UV space.
sorry about my handwriting, I don't know why I didn't just just the text tool...
Neox: Thanks for the feedback. The look I was going for was a short, cute girl, with a fairly average physique, so no it's real bad that it's giving you the impression she's giant! I do agree though, I think I cut down the size of the face when i was working on it without paying enough attention to it's overall size. By my estimations, she's a bit over 7 heads tall
but that's still too tall, in real world scale, I would want her to be about 5'4" or so, so I'll make some changes to the low poly, scale her head up a bit or make her legs slightly shorter to fix it.
Barnsey: That's a good question lol. the stitches will probably just end up getting lost, but hey, they look nice on the high poly!
Thanks again everyone!
I really like the smooth effect you get in the coat! It really makes it feel thicker and heavier like it should
Btw thanks for that tutorial, this is insane, and i love it
http://www.gogeet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5:zbrush-clothes-tutorial&catid=34:tips&Itemid=55
Sculpt look really good, even without the textures I can tell the different fabrics. Keep it up!
someone actually send it to me on the hangout yersterday, maybe it was you
if you're the french fry, then yes!
Thanks for the awesome tutorial for the hat too
As you say, her face does seem small within her head (maybe cranium too high?) and I think she is too many head heights tall as well. If you're going for a woman's average height you can see a bit clearer with this image.
Maybe just grow the face within her head and size up her head a bit as well?
..folds maaaaaaan!
just to echo some of the other comments, her head does look too small in one of the images
I've mostly been working on the face lately and adding in all the small elements. I just need to refine a lot of the small bits and then I'm done with the head, then a couple more things to do to the main body and I'm done.
Oh and Manilamerc, yea the boot is a load of seperate subtools, i tried sculpting it using masking etc but it just didn't look as clean
Formori: you made me realise I was definately out with the head size, so thanks for that, I've made it quite significantly bigger in my most recent version.
Anyway, here's an update to the head, I'm pretty happy with how she's looking now, I think she looks cute without looking too sexy, which was what I was going for, I'd really appreciate your feedback!
The heads quite a lot bigger than the last full body shot i posted, hopefully it looks correct now, I think she's looking better proportioned.
Please let me know what you think and if there's anything that stands out as looking wrong. Cheers!