sci fi gun

Didjitalus

hi, first time i make a thread here^^, i'm making my own concept of a sci fi gun, high poly is finished busy with low poly now. I was hoping i could get some feedback. thx in advance, have a good day. [IMG][/img] Uploaded with ImageShack.us

ImsumDave

Looks cool. I fixed that image for you. On imageshack, right-click on the image and a url will pop up; this is the url you should use for the embedded image. <removed image to give the op control>

Didjitalus

thank you, insumDave

ENerd

Looks cool. But the pistol grip would be painfull to hold. The hole should be higher, like this:

bcottage

Nice work bro. What shader you using?

E_Hollaway

I think the pistol grip is fine. This is a sci fi gun so there is literally an infinite list of creatures that could be holding this depending on what the creator had in mind. I say roll with it, what may not be comfortable to a human could be comfortable to an alien. Not everything has to be absolutely perfect for human use!!

ENerd

Oh, now I'm seeing that there actually isn't a trigger. It looked like the indentation below the round thingy is the trigger.

Yeah, in that case it's fine ^^

Didjitalus

thx guys, @Enerd there is actually the same as you drawed but there is something in front of it i'll upload a sideview later on^^ @bcottage i used a carpaint material with a daylight rendered with mental ray and i multiplied an ambient occlusion in photoshop

Didjitalus

ok finished my low poly i still think it's a bit 2 much but i can't seem the find any more places where i can save some polies anyone who could help me with that?
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S_ource

I would assume its the floaters that put in allot of tris so if you want to bake them only you would save allot. And i would probably also remove some of the small extrusions on the barrels since that would most likely not even be seen by the player. The hp looks really nice.

Didjitalus

thank you source they really added the polycount up , i always thought it was better to leave them. 7855 tris now ^^

tac0m

IMO there's a lot more optimizing you could do to your lowpoly model. The small details on the gun can be baked from the high poly model and you could probably shave another 1.5-2k by going through and removing more edge loops that aren't really needed.

What helps me is rotating the weapon so that I get a first person shooter kind of view... then i get to see what is wasted polys and what isn't. Hope this helps GG so far

added: I also agree with ENerd, the grip looks very awkward and even though it's a sci-fi weapon, everyone is going to assume a human is going to be holding this and it's going to be very awkward.

Didjitalus

thx tac0m, ok so i removed more egdes is this ok?

Didjitalus

sigh i've been busy with my internship, so i've had to work on it after my shift was done and the baking process took forever xD but i learned alot from it and i'm actually pretty satisfied with the result let me know what you guys think

KartoonHead

Your normals look really, really, crazy broken, maybe you need to flip your X or Y channel? The texture isn't very nice either, looks like random scratches on autopilot, materials don't really read. Take your time with it. Read up on baking and smoothing groups/UV island relation, then I'd suggest millennia's weapon tutorial, particularly the texturing part.

The HP is immense, no escaping that. Really good job there.

Didjitalus

i don't get how you say they are broken, because they show fine in marmoset i can show you if you want and i've asked multiple people what material it resembles and they all said it was meta.i really don't have a clue what you mean but i appreciate your critics i thought it was good i guess not

KartoonHead

Didjitalus wrote: »

they show fine in marmoset

Have a really good look at those marmoset renders you posted. There are dark spots all over them, flat areas are reading as bent, highlights are showing up on the wrong side of curved surfaces, the whole model is being lit incorrectly.

First off, try flipping the green channel in marmoset.

Brygelsmack

Didjitalus wrote: »

i don't get how you say they are broken, because they show fine in marmoset i can show you if you want and i've asked multiple people what material it resembles and they all said it was meta.i really don't have a clue what you mean but i appreciate your critics i thought it was good i guess not

O.o Easy there. If the green channel is inverted it's just a matter of flipping it. No need to get so defensive.

I like your HP, looks cool...

Didjitalus

i'm not getting defensive i just didn't understood what he meant by broken, and i've inveterted the green channel and it looks worse now

Didjitalus

ugh nvm i'm an idiot it looks a bit better now

Didjitalus

thx kartoonhead and Brygelsmack for pointing it out

KartoonHead

Don't let it get you down! Read/watch this stuff, helps explain normal maps, projection, cages, smoothing and all that stuff. You should keep going with this until you've got the experience and knowledge to produce the best possible normal bake for any given situation.

http://www.handplane3d.com/videos.html
http://wiki.polycount.com/NormalMap

Didjitalus

yea i know but i was kinda satisfied with it, i really had no idea i had to flip the channel, i'll have to redo my texture so this is one with the flipped normals

KartoonHead

it looks a little better, but it still doesn't reflect the high-poly very well, and there is still a bunch of areas with broken lighting. Can you post a pic of the mesh with only the normal map applied on a flat grey material and a bit of specular to help the normals read easier?

Didjitalus

Didjitalus

Would it be possible i also have to flip my x channel i have the feeling it looks better although i'm not sure :S

Didjitalus

ok, i've decided i'm just going to rebake the whole damn thing

Didjitalus

new bakes

KartoonHead

SO much better! Many congratulations! Looking forward to the textures

Didjitalus

glad you like it thx again for the tips and links, i really had no idea , busy with texturing now ^^

Didjitalus

base colors

Didjitalus

Didjitalus

unless someone finds something that still needs to be improved i'm considering this done, although feedback is most appreciated. thank you everybody for helping. i've quite learned a lot with this.

Didjitalus

no feedback?

Hayden Zammit

I think its looking pretty good. As for crits, it looks like you've tried to make it look worn, but I think you could push it a bit. Maybe scratches along edges and stuff like that would help.

The darker grey/brown follows the panels in the gun, which is cool. At the front, where you have like a triangle, it looks odd there because it doesn't follow anything.

I think you should work on those holes in the middle. They don't look convincing to me. Not sure how to explain it, but they just look too much of a flat black.

How that helps.

Didjitalus

thank you for comment and yes it helped

Didjitalus

addes sratches along the egdes^^

smokechok

great work!