Scifish Female Character

Leinad

Here is a character WIP that I started working on outside of class. I am trying to get the anatomy correct before I convert it into a body suit. Let me know what you think, any feedback would be wonderful

Leinad

So I softened up the hands, and made some minor adjustments with the fingers. I also went in and slightly opened up the mouth. I'll most likely retopologize it to get more ideal geometry since I've stretched out some areas a bit too much.

I am at a point where it's tough for me to tell whether the anatomy is good enough to move on. I am trying to take my time and make sure the overall quality is high.

Ideally, I would love to get some feedback before I fully move into designing the clothing/armor/bodysuit. I also did a quick paint-over to see if I can come up with some interesting design for the clothing.

Yeenke

Hi, not bad start:) but it needs a lot of work still. In first she looks she got so short legs so create it longer. You need to put S line to the body from side. Look for example here http://image1.masterfile.com/em_w/02/23/37/823-02233703w.jpg It's really good to inspire by 3d.sk photos or some inspiration google photos But don't forget to look some anatomical books. You know when you will know shape of every part of body you will create in the future it from your mind but now is important to study body:)

nyx702

Yea not a bad start at all. I am not sure if you working with Perspective off or not but I would post pics with Perspective on. No perspective instantly flattens your model and makes it look "off" IMO.

The hands look too small to me. Maybe scale them up 50%

The nose, specifically the nostril, in 3/4 view looks a little undefined. Maybe try and work some more landmark shapes into there. Like more of a crease where it meets the cheek.

Leinad

I am so grateful that you guys took the time to give me feedback, it has really brightened up my weekend Thank you!

I always find it fascinating how great artists see things that I often miss.

Yeenke, I am quite sure I won’t be forgetting the s line from the side view ever again. I made slight changes in the proportion of the character to lengthen the legs. I really appreciate the feedback, thank you!

nyx702, thanks I increased the size of the hand and added some minor changes to the nose. I’ll definitely focus more on the face once I feel like the overall body is well done

Leinad

Another update

I went in and further defined the areas around the rib-cage, Coccyx and the pelvic bone.

At this point I'll be focusing more on the arm and trying to bring that up to a better quality.

Please let me know what you think, any feed-back would be greatly appreciated

nyx702

Looking good! I am liking alot of the subtle detail. The pelvic region is looking really nice. IMO I think the hands are still too tiny.

I am not sure what age you are going for but I think the size of her head compared to the body is making her look young/childlike. Could be the shoulder width or the hair volume too... Just looking at the first post and this one I feel like they are different ages.

Goeddy

well she looks realy kinky with the small arms and the small ribcage.
a smaller person with an ass that huge would have a way larger ribcage and also way longer arms, while for a child her legs are a bit too long and her anatomy is too defined, escpecialy on her lower back.

also with the body-fat percentage, she seems to have ,you wouldnt see her hipbones definition in the front.

and this matcap is realy not good for presenting.
if its skin you are presenting, then just take one of the skin matcaps, or a simple grey matcap with very soft specularity.
the current highlights dont realy help figuring out the shape.

Leinad

Thanks for the feedback guys!

nyx702 you are right, the proportions were a bit odd and were inconsistent so I went in and changed them (still some issues, I'll try to figure them out today). When I increased the hand size it looked way to masculine though. So as of right now I plan on matching up the hand to an image I referenced and make sure it lines up like it initially did.

Goeddy thanks for the matcap advice, I'll try it out in this post (let me know if this improves readability) =P However most of the time I prefer the previous matcap as I find it more responsive to changes in lighting. As far as the rib-cage, the bone structure should not be changing as the body fat increases. I'll make sure to double check the arms length when I line it up with my reference once more.

I am currently retopologizing the model and hope to further refine areas that are a bit chaotic topologically.

Thanks guys!

nyx702

Nice. I like this version alot more. Looking good!

Leinad

Thanks nyx702, really appreciate the encouragement

Here is an update, I wanted to push the hand size but didn't want to risk having large proportion issues. So I gave her some gloves and just pushed the size a bit. I haven't decided on the final color of the outfit, but wanted to keep it simple for now as I flesh out the design a bit more.

Any feedback would be great guys

Leinad

I've made some overall proportion changes in the face and hair. Specifically, the lips, eyeballs, jaw/chin and hair have received some adjustments. Also I've gone ahead and added some teeth to get a better idea of the overall look of the face.

Any feedback would be great so don't hold back

Leinad

So, after reviewing my progress on the face, I decided it was best to start over and really focus my attention on getting the kinds of proportions I would expect an attractive female character to have. I find the current reiteration more successful.

My goal is simple, spend as much time necessary to create a high quality character.

What do you guys think? Is there an area that doesn't quite fit or you feel should be prioritized? Any more feedback would be amazing!

nyx702

I like it. Nice and clean loops.

I feel like her chin is pushed a little too forward for my tastes tho.

Leinad

Thanks again man, really appreciate the help ended up changing the jaw/chin a bit, in general, I softened up the areas that looked a bit sharp/bony/old.

As of right now I'll be focusing more on the eyebrows and hair. I might just paint the eyebrows in when I texture rather than sculpt it out.

Leinad

Update time! I've spent most of my time preparing the uvs for the texturing phase as I am sure that'll keep me busy for some time. Also, I've used spot light to have a base texture to work off of for the face.

The plan currently is to get everything (uvs) set up for texturing (photo + hand-painting) and to figure out the most effective way to texture this character consistently.

Any feedback is appreciated, I don't mind going back to the modelling phase if it means further improving the character.

Leinad

Here is a little update. The previous face looked a bit pale so I went in with some red to liven her up a bit. I added some eyelashes, while they look ok from up close, they do read a bit noisy from afar.

I'll be posting much more frequently since I finally get a break from school

Here are some of the things on my to do list:

1) figure out how to properly translate the eye (mirroring in zbrush screws with the reflection)
2) cleaning up the textures, I don't have much experience with alpha maps so at this point I am trying to figure out how to use them effectively.
3) getting a base texture for the body/armor

Like usual, feedback is appreciated!

Anthricus

Youve really captured the 3 zones of the face in a great way , just wondering what technique you used to texture?

Also the comparison between the semi realistic head and the cartoonish hand painted hair is a bit odd , id try adn work further into the hair textures with a hair brush in phot shop ( you can still keep it hand painted but just make it look a bit less like thick manga strands of hair)

Good luck pal

Anthricus

Also would be interested if you could show how you did the orignal eyes the reflections are rad :P

Leinad

Hey Anthricus!

Thank you, I am glad you’re liking what I’ve got so far.

Yea, I agree, I need to thin those strands lol! Thanks for pointed it out, I really appreciate it.

The original eye was literally a photo projection done with spotlight in zbrush. Watch all of the videos here and you should be set!

http://www.pixologic.com/zclassroom/homeroom/lesson/spotlight/

I wasn’t happy with the photo projection because I felt like the photo was doing too much of my decision making. I’ll try to imitate some of the reflections in the hand painted version

As far as my overall texturing method goes, it’s a mix between spotlight/photoshop/zbrush. Spotlight was helpful to get a quick base texture which I can easily work on top of. Photoshop was used to clean up texture modification I made in zbrush.

Wex

I think the shape of the mouth, chin and jawline was much more natural in the previous update.

Leinad

Thanks for the feedback, I made a lot of changes to the areas that were suggested. I also changed up the design of the clothing and made significant changes to the overall proportions of the hips.

When getting further into the hair, I decided to scratch the initial design and went for something with more detail and gave myself more freedom in terms of resolution.

I hope you like it, thanks again for all of the wonderful feedback, I hope you keep them coming !

Leinad

Hi guys! So I finally was able to get some decent progress. Here are some renders from marmoset, I would love to get some feedback in what's working and what isn't

Right now I am working on getting the oval shape on her back to glow and hopefully look like glass. I also need to do some overall cleanup on the texture of the face.

Hope you like it!

Leinad

Fixed some issues with the lighting, lightened the AO and gloss on the face, and added a self illumination map.

Julia

The suit, to me, feels very rubbery. Partially because of the spec, and partially because of the edges, they're too soft with little creasing.
I really really feel this way about the shoes.

Leinad

Hey guys, I decided to go back and redo this model. I found that it lacked proper proportions and overall polish. I really want to make an attractive female character and I believe I haven't yet. It's partly an issue of experience and time constraints. Either way, school graudation is approaching (2 more weeks and I am done!) which would allow me to give it the kind of attention it needs. I've made some progress, the version with the legs spread is the most recent. I feel that some areas have improved while others might have lessened in attractive. Let me know what you think

Leinad

I ended up going with the old version and making some proportional adjustments to fix some areas I felt needed some work.

Leinad

worked on the hair a bit, trying to get a better feel for the overall proportions/design.