Looks like I might have enough time to work on this. I'm still meditating over ideas but I've narrowed it down to 3-4 character options, mostly for their creature slots.
Some ideas so far are:
Broodmother - Heavy Metal Sloth
Beastmaster - TentacleTapir/DragonDuck Set
Lone Druid - Amphibian Avenger
Lycanthrope - Feline Ferocity
..I'm kind of leaning towards the latter. Gonna do some sketching and see where things could go (and update the title).
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Lets see you win this!
All you old gents have no real excuse this is small potatoes for you.
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Oh, and a silly question: how does one change the thread title?
And HOLY Sweet JESUS that looks awesome!
This is going to be amazing! Love the whole everything.
...that
nice humor, man! Just do it!
It's the first piece that's great looking and funny as hell
my idear for the Lycan just got totally pwned!
love the little dude on his "wolf form",
ooh and a small bottle of milk! (you would maybe want to make those small things a bit bigger though, the milk bottle and mouses, so you can see em from way up too! )
so yeah, not much to say except for F*CKING AWESOME!!
concept is great but not for this character
lycanthrope transforming into a cat? how does this make any sense?
Please, stick to actual constructive advice/criticism, let Valve be the judge of what fits their game. My banhammer is at the ready to prevent any contest threads turning into "this doesn't belong!" flame wars.
That is constructive criticism. telling people when they're wasting their time on an idea that isn't going to work might be rude but it needs to be said.
As cool an idea as this is, there is absolutely no way that it could ever be implemented. at least half of his voice acting lines mention wolves explicitly and one of his abilities is howling at the moon. my advice is to keep brainstorming.
i'm sorry if my criticism was too rude
this dude has great artistic skills and i think that nobody wants them to be wasted on items which will never get into Dota store
Nice concept, it's good lol if nothing else.
Love it but in the concept you are hiding his face which I think might not go over to well when "judging", cause it's almost a totally different character.
Maybe half a mask like phantom of the opera.:shifty:
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I think they state somewhere not to change the character so much so that he does look like a new character or else everyone would be doing that. I don't see the harm in it but Valve seems to, legal issues possibly, like if people start making wow designs as the case with one contestants entries at the moment.
though the voice acting and animations could indeed be a problem,
you could make it so that the little dude is a little wolf or something?
I'm sure peppi can come up with something genius!
well done
Excuse me? So you think that the background and the history of the character it's not the focus? Obvious, it's not the strongest point of the game. But one of the most importants for sure, sir. Every character does have a background, a history behind it, and if you don't respect or follow that you are ignoring most of the character. Where they come from, what they are seeking... Otherwhise you can spam random cool designs anytime and that's easymode. Actually getting into the mode of the lore and trying to make something original INSIDE those lines it's the real challenge.
Without a background history I can't say how this design can fit with the lore, but the design is HAWT.
i see alot of comments where people are limiting neat ideas, because of constraints of the lore which are pretty loose to begin with. we have everything from undead fatty's, to wisps, to drunk cats. so to say your idea can't fit in to me is bogus.the lore and kits dont factor into game play at all rather just support the universe, so ill take a hawt design over a boring design that really fits the lore.
"Otherwhise you can spam random cool designs anytime and that's easymode"
kinda like how the game was built from dota and a chunk of the designs are just strait up blizzard, with new lore(i understand why, these character roles are established).......the game play/design came first and the lore came later to support it. so when i do art for a game i take that structure into account.
IMO its our job as artists to push the design and lore out if the idea is cool, as ive seen better game ideas from from the art crew than the design docs generally. but thats jut my experience.at the root i love your design and see no problem as a fun alt kit.
I would like to suggest that instead of just stomping out this conversation entirely we move it to a thread of its own, I feel it's an important discussion to have.
LuCh! - Thanks a lot, good point about those small pieces. I've updated the concept with these and some other tweaks and will replace the image in a bit (that was before I decided to drop this idea).
Permaktitkis, shanks - it's in no way rude or anything, you're both totally right and I appreciate your feedback. That's the point about spending time with concepts, whether they lead somewhere or not, in most cases they'll help define what the goal is. His character aside, I hadn't thought about the VO at all. To be honest I didn't notice it very much while spectating, so thanks for pointing that out - it definitely convinced me. I also noticed that his wolf form has a particle system attached to his back which wouldn't quite work with the idea (and most likely isn't swappable).
$inz - I tried to find that passage again, I think it referred replacing a hero with some existing character, as in, using someone else's IP? And elsewhere it said that the silhouette should remain roughly similar to the default one.. I can't seem to find it right now.
So, what's next? As mentioned in the first post I'm mainly interested in the creature slots, and there are a few more hero options for that apart from Lycan. I think I'm also going to stick to the lore a little more closely. I did a few sketches for a Beastmaster set yesterday. Since the first two weeks are already gone I probably won't be able to get a full set done. It should be possible to make at least 3 or 4 things, though. New thread coming soon..
Thanks again for the feedback everyone!
- BoBo
Keep your vision yours
Love this paragraph!
Go for the cat peppy! I hear somewhere sometime that if you make people smile, it will work. And in my case, it did!
Go for it!
How about you drop the banhammer and pull your head out of your ass instead.