[Dota2] – Broodmother – Caring Mama set

Zalakzik

Hi to all, here is my thread devoted to Broodmother, and my set Caring Mama . There will be 3 items: tummy with spider eggs inside, a slightly spiked legs and little adornment at the head.
Here is some pictures

Dark Acre Jack

Spiders - immediately creepy. Spiders with eggs in their tummies - insanely creepy. Watching this one with interest (from a distance!).

Zalakzik

Progress at texturing legs.

Y_M

I like the spiked legs a lot but I think your texturing is pushing your interesting design back towards looking like the original

She's got red tips, red at the joints and the general blue gradient along the length of the leg, all the same as you have.
I'd like to see you try out some changes in the colour palette.

Zalakzik

Thx for feedback, i tried orange color, and if imagine that, other parts of the set will be orange too, should be pretty cool.

Zalakzik

Small update, now she have head "things".
Hardest part is coming, her back.

Zalakzik

Just quick test in game with automatic weigths

Zalakzik

Started working on back.
Im really need help with this one, how to improve dat tummy, any suggestions?

RoqueDemon

I think you should make the back look like it's almost bursting with eggs. Increase the number of eggs and push them out a little bit.

Core7SO

RoqueDemon wrote: »

I think you should make the back look like it's almost bursting with eggs. Increase the number of eggs and push them out a little bit.

You should do this!

Oh man, its getting creepier and creepier.. but the little "things" on her head kind of kill that feel

mrpresident

RoqueDemon wrote: »

I think you should make the back look like it's almost bursting with eggs. Increase the number of eggs and push them out a little bit.

This.

Also the antennae/feelers look a little off somehow, like they're either too short or simply don't belong on a spider. Not sure how I'd change them but I'd look at pictures of real life spiders to see if any have anything like that for inspiration.

Other than that the set is coming along nicely, great job.

Dark Acre Jack

Just wondering if you do make it festering and bursting with eggs how much of that could be done with the normal map instead of geometry. Might end up winning the poly battle that way?

Qwiggalo

mrpresident wrote: »

This.

Also the antennae/feelers look a little off somehow, like they're either too short or simply don't belong on a spider. Not sure how I'd change them but I'd look at pictures of real life spiders to see if any have anything like that for inspiration.

Other than that the set is coming along nicely, great job.

Because spiders don't have feelers on their heads tbh. You're making it into an insect.

reverendK

yes - antennae should go for sure.
Also i'm a defenitely +1 on more eggs - push that silhouette with 'em. push it lots.
You might even consider (if it can be managed) putting some of the young on there - though it might look a little awkward without them animating. something to think about though. Wolf spiders do it.
ref:


Side note: i'm an arachnaphobe and just that google search will probably have me slapping at imaginary spiders that may or may not be crawling all over me for the rest of the day. Better 'preciate it!

mrpresident

Qwiggalo wrote: »

Because spiders don't have feelers on their heads tbh. You're making it into an insect.

Yeah I was fairly certain there aren't any species of spiders that have antennae but I'm sure there's a spider out there with some kind of head-something on it.

Zalakzik

Thx for feedbacks guys, i will remake head and improve back, also i think that misc slot can be used for some little spider, that will сrowl on her body.

BrontoThunder

I was thinking of doing something like this then I realised that I would have to look at countless reference images of spiders, specifically spiders full of eggs/covered in baby spiders and I decided against it.

Yours is looking good, though!

The orange actually looks really good in-game, nice work.

Mike.j.c.

reverendK wrote: »

Side note: i'm an arachnaphobe and just that google search will probably have me slapping at imaginary spiders that may or may not be crawling all over me for the rest of the day. Better 'preciate it!

Same, just looking at this gives me the wigy giggles all over me.

OnTopic: This idea is absolutly cool and gives a new meaning to " i am the carry!!"

Zalakzik

I think that can be good custom spiderling

Zalakzik

Updated head. Better?

Spudnik

I think it'd be cool if you brought in some of the original red again into the orange parts, maybe in the form of a gradients so that is starts off orange and as if falls into shadow/AO or just away from the main lit part, it turns into a dark red. A similar effect to what is going on on her original face with the red slowly turning into black as we move away from the areas of interest.

Zalakzik

I tried make it, but it turned not very nice

Zalakzik

Misc

Lods allow to make only 2 spiders

shanks37

the horns look awesome and will definitely work with that custom spiderling idea, great improvement.

i think i get what spudnik is saying though, the orange is pulling too a bit too far from her colour scheme. i'd maybe try a sunburst idea like this:



other than that fantastic so far.

Spudnik

Yep that is exactly what I meant! Personally, I think it looks better that way, but then again I'm biased :P

bensow

Zalakzik wrote: »

Just quick test in game with automatic weigths

Mind teaching me how do you test? I'm using blender too Wicked model I have to say

Zalakzik

Upgraded texture and little spiders as misc, not sure that i will leave them.

Bensow, im just export model with SMD Tool
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_SMD_Tools

shanks37

the new texture's looking great. can you change the colour on her fangs too?

i dont care what anybody else says though, those spiderlings are adorable.

bensow

Zalakzik wrote: »

Upgraded texture and little spiders as misc, not sure that i will leave them.

Bensow, im just export model with SMD Tool
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_SMD_Tools

After export? Where do you put into to tesT?

bensow

Zalakzik wrote: »

Upgraded texture and little spiders as misc, not sure that i will leave them.
Bensow, im just export model with SMD Tool
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_SMD_Tools

After export SMD then? Use what to test?

reverendK

them baby spiders are really cute. which may be a problem.

Zalakzik

Testing in modelviewer and dota2ItemTest Tool.
Its a little dark in modelviewer cause some masks work wrong in it.
Also have no idea how i will assign babys to the bones to look correctly with standart butt.





Bensow, im just load them in Dota 2 ItemTest Tool, in dota2 client.

Spudnik

Damn, those little eggsacks look really creepy. Maybe you could change the texture a little bit so it looks a bit more white, therefore more slimy instead of metall-y. Otherwise looking great!

Zalakzik

Well, im decided not to make custom spiderlings, because im sucks, so its done, vote if u like guys.

Nuclear Angel

Hey Zalakzik, I am just wondering a thing. Did you use 3ds max to do this? And if you did, did you use broodmothers FBX files and rigged to them? Because If you are, I wonder how you got it in to the game? Because I cant get it to work on my own broodmother model in game.

But in other words, nice job on this one, it looks great!