High res textures

razzta91

Hey

Right now Im working on a litte fruit shop, and the modelling is done,
so moving on to texturing.

So..

I render a 2048 x 2048 UVW out from max, put into PS and I find a tree texture, just for trying, but when I have scaled, moved and painting, I look at it in 3ds max and the textures are all blurry and ugly.

Whats wrong?

I thought that it would be some nice texture when the UVW is 2048 x 2048?

Ruz

well you could post the image , hard to say without seeing it.

razzta91

Sorry.

Here it is

nick2730

sometimes teh viewport doesnt display the textures perfect, render the image out to see it or use a shader like xihoul

Chunkey

Have you checked your viewport settings?

customise menu at top row of menus>preferences>viewport>configure driver. Check your image resolution and select maximum resolution and match bitmap size as close as possible on both options.

Also check your mip map settings as well, sometimes mip mapping can make textures blurry if you're looking at the geometry from narrow angles, etc.

Hope that helps!

razzta91

This is a render. No difference


I have checked my viewport settings and it looks like it should.


This is driven me crazy, my first game assets and its already f..... up!

razzta91

I also tried to change the texture but that didnt help

PixelMasher

can you post your UV layout, that could help as well. is it a 2048 for the whole fruit stand, that box or the whole scene?

3DKnight

try using Nitrous and selecting in the viewport shading dropdown: materials -> realistic materials with maps

GeeDave

PixelMasher wrote: »

can you post your UV layout, that could help as well. is it a 2048 for the whole fruit stand, that box or the whole scene?

Aye, this will be the winner (what you're getting at). I'd bet my left testicle on it.

McGreed

Yeah, I have a feeling of unique UV for each polygon, and just automatic unwrap.

oobersli

its your uvs. post up your uv sheet and the texture you're trying to use for it. can't help ya much if you just show the corner of a low poly box.

Snader

Try this:

Customize, Preferences, Viewports, Configure Driver.

Set your viewport textures to be as large as possible, and 'match bitmap size'.



edit: also, in the future you should post an issue like this in Technical Talk instead.

sun_smasher

GeeDave wrote: »

Aye, this will be the winner (what you're getting at). I'd bet my left testicle on it.

Yeah even though it's a 2048, if you only have a little bit of the texture for the UV's it'll still be blurry. You should post your UV layout if you can.

razzta91

Okay,

Here is a picture of my UVW and a picture of one of the textures im using(2240 x 1680)

Ged

are you just using that one image texture on the whole uv set? no wonder it looks bad.
look at this example, the wood needs to fit each uv island.

razzta91

This is my UV with textures

EMC3D

In my opinion I think you'd benefit from tiling textures with the odd unique texture for the carpet / fruit, you'd get way more rez that way.

ZacD

You should probably post the whole prop so we can best advise you how to optimize that UV layout.

illo

k, so you should take a look at what snefer did on his 1 texture environment. he stacks the uv shells on top of each other and uses 1 block of textures, you should do that too. attached is something that you can do to increase texture density. also dont forget to scale all that stuff up to maximize the space, you have a lot of gray which is wasted.

razzta91

illo: Okay, thanks I will take at look at it tomorrow


Here is at screenshot of the whole prop.

xvampire

using grid in photoshop might help organizing your uv tile atlas.

jimmypopali

Great example!

razzta91

xvampire: thanks, I will try to use your method, I hope it works

razzta91

Ok,

I tried to do what xvampire said, and this is what I come up with.


So now I just have to pack my uvw so it match this texture sheet right?

Bruno Afonseca

Tip: Use textures with power of two dimensions (256, 512, 1024, 2048 and so on)
Max doesn't render that well textures that don't follow this!

razzta91

I still dont figure it out,

I have done what xvampire said, but I dont understand because, when I find at texture I like, I have to scale it down and dublicate it to match the unwrap, but its still blurry???

Bruno Afonseca

What are the dimensions of your bitmap file? Are they power of two?

razzta91

I have tried to make one of my texture 1024x1024 but its still blurry

sun_smasher

If it's still blurry there are two things to consider.

1. Sharpen the image. Use the "unsharp mask" for this, found in filter > sharpen > unsharp mask. When I make textures, that is my last step, I sharpen it up slightly. Keep threshold at 0 levels always, and then don't let the radius get above 2.0 pixels (it's pointless after that) and usually my percentage stays between 30-70%. Then after doing that, duplicate the layer, de-saturate it, and run a high pass filter. This is found in filter > other > high pass. This will bring out the hot highlights of your texture, and on that one I generally keep it between .5 to .9 and never go above 2.0, then apply that layer as an overlay. This will help sharpen the image.

2. The other thing to consider is that generally speaking, when you make textures, you need to make them to be sharp from a loosely set distance away. Every single game ever will have blurry textures if you go mash your face up against whatever it is. Because of the way the pixels work, work from a set distance away and make your thing look awesome from there and if it looks really blurry close up? That really doesn't matter so long as it looks good from the distance you'll be rendering and viewing it from.

razzta91

thank you sun_smasher, I will try it

razzta91

Sun_smasher: it works very well, thank you

and everybody else, thank you for your advices

ausernottaken

The blurriness in the viewport is due to the setting mentioned earlier. You have to make sure the setting is actually sticking. If it isn't, you might have to run max as an administrator.