[WIP] Templar

Pikey

Hello, polycounters!

Starting a new character WIP. Decided to make a more or less realistic Templar. Here is what I have so far. He is wearing a haubrek, chain mail gloves and "pans". On top he will have a white tunic, cloak with red crosses. Also I plan to make tophelm, shield, sword, spear and a horse. Will try to make a rig for him and the horse.

Thanks in advance for any c&c.

Update 7/22/2013:

PaulP

He's looking about 8-8.5heads high atm, giving him heroic proportions. If you want to create a more realistic character, you should consider bringing him down to around 7heads. Also to get the anatomy on track, it can be a good idea to create you body first w/o the armor, then build the armor on top. Also his face is very high up in relation to the rest of his head, his eye level should be closer to the mid point. Anyway facial sturcture looks alright so far, keep it up!

Pikey

Thanks, SCB!

Yes I was in fact experimenting and going for heroic proportions. I guess that will make him slightly stylized.
And I did start with the body and build the armor on top , but of course all the details were lost when building the armor. Still only learning the anatomy, so if you see any major mistakes, please let me know.

Ill definitely correct the head. Thanks for suggestions!

Pikey

Little update. Fixed the head. added more parts and some folds.

Tobbo

He's looking better. But what are you going to do about the hands?

Pikey

Thanks, Tobbo.

Hands are actually chainmail gloves.
The other option is make them mittens (not sure if its the right word):

http://www.medieval-weaponry.co.uk/acatalog/AB2752-200.jpg

After I put chainmail pattern on glove shaped.... glove - Ill see how it looks, and may do the mittens if it doesn't look good enough.

Pikey

Little update. Did chainmail pattern, fixed and added some minor things.

Would love to hear any suggestions.

One thing I am not sure about is: can I make the cloak 2-sided or do I have to double polygons (with shell for example) to create little thickness? What is the standard way of making things like it?

Pikey

Update.

Made helm and sword. Thinking about moving to low poly soon.
Please c&c!

d0kefish

Are you going to use the model for anything special? I got a little sideproject I work now and then on, and its a mod for Skyrim, featuring the old amigagame Moonstone: A hard days knight. And seeing the armor got me thinking of that straight away.

Pikey

Personal project only. Just trying to get better...

Pikey

Hi! Its been a while - no time to work on personal stuff at all

Here is my progress. Started working on the horse.
Let me know what you think.

PaulP

Hey I don't know if you've started texturing your character yet, but I came across this awesome piece by Francisco A. Cortina, Knight of the Temple, and I thought it might give you some ideas:

(Here's the link, the image is quite big, don't want to clutter your thread!)

Pikey

Thanks, SCB! I haven't started texturing yet, but I do have this picture and using it as one of the refs. Work eats up all my time and I barely have any to work on personal projects. Will post some updates soon.

Pikey

Here is another update.

Added some minor changes to the guy and made horse gear and polished some things. At this point I am sill not sure if I will model in fine details or simply put them directly on the texture.

Let me know what you think.

Vio

As chain mail was pretty dam heavy to wear, I think you could do some wonderful things by showing that weight in places like the under arms rather than the skin tight chain mail which seems hard to believe anyone could tailor such a material to be a perfect skintight fit. From a lot of the old films where people would wear this stuff they were pretty baggy around the limbs as they were basically just a one size fits all layer.

The horse is looking pretty good to me, especially around the head.

Pikey

Thanks, Vio!

You are right, I was wondering why this chainmail looks like a sweater - now I see that its probably too tight...

Pikey

Hi everyone!

No time to work on personal projects at all
But am determined to finish this one. I actually lost all my previous WIPS - somehow got deleted off my harddrive. So I had to almost do everything from scratch.

Let me know what you think.

DiegoTeran

i havent read the whole thing but i have one suggestion/comment

the chain mail looks like crocheting

http://img2.etsystatic.com/004/0/6800209/il_340x270.365218022_3h4j.jpg

maybe a diff pattern?

Shyralon

All in all pretty awesome work
Only thing which looks a bit weird to me are his gauntlets.
I know it's a pretty small detail, but plate gauntlets on top of chainmail looks unrealistic and they should go more towards the ellbow.
http://www.swords4you.com/atif/store/images/categories/gauntlets.jpg
Edit: Nevermind, I just saw you removed them in your latest WIP

ThaSlimShady

Shyralon wrote: »

All in all pretty awesome work
Only thing which looks a bit weird to me are his gauntlets.
I know it's a pretty small detail, but plate gauntlets on top of chainmail looks unrealistic and they should go more towards the ellbow.
http://www.swords4you.com/atif/store/images/categories/gauntlets.jpg
Edit: Nevermind, I just saw you removed them in your latest WIP

Indeed looks much better yeah, hands look goofy now indeed

The_Blenderer

The Kaffeia around his helmet looks somewhat silly since he is wearing a helmet and his robe has a cowl he can put on that doesn't break the form in that awkward way so I think it looks cool without it.
Just a personal opinion of course.

Pikey

Thanks everyone for your feedbacks

@ Turista I messed around with chainmail pattern for a while now - I dont want to have transparency there and this is the optimal pattern I came up with. I think it will look better after texturing.

Yeah no gauntelts - I decided to keep it simple on the hands. Will work on general shape to make it less goofy

The_Blenderer - it makes sense - I think hell just have a tophelm without the "kaffeia".

A buddy coworker gave me some good tips on the cloak and the robe - primarily folds, as well as the face. So I will keep working until I get it right.

Thanks

DiegoTeran

hey pikey yea idk its hard to explain. im thinking maybe its the thickness, can you try by any chance to make it thinner so you can see a little bit thru it?

Pikey

Sup guys!

Here is a fresh update. Experimented with chainmail for a while. Decided to stop on this version. Used micromesh for it, I think this gives much better result and does not look like sweater

Changed some details, worked on folds, etc.

Next - redoing helmet and the sword. Also plan to add some detailing on the cloak and may be tunic (some stitches may be, or ornaments).

Please c&c.

Pikey

Hi.

Completely re-did the sword. As always, I appreciate any comments

Pikey

And here is the helmet.

Pikey

Hi,

Here is the shield - I went ahead and detailed it.
Next - detailing helmet, sword and the knight.

Please someone say something