Sword Character WIP

Fred2303

Sup guys!

So a couple of weeks ago i saw this incredibly cool concept From Dii in the weekly recap and asked him if i could take a shot to do this guy in 3D and accepted!
so heres the progress so far wich is mainly the blockout and some main wrinkles on the cloths.

I really want to work hard on that piece be happy at the end of it

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so heres my new update



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any crits would be very apprecieted ! thanks guys!



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i would really love to have crits about the progress that i have so far

thanks!!

Fred2303

great advice im gonna add this for sure thx!!

sipher3325

This is looking pretty cool

Pancakes

looks great, I think you are missing the angle on his arm pose however which is part of what makes the concept so dynamic. This upper arm needs to come down at a sharper angle and that will provide more contrast with the curvature of his forearm's armore plating. Unless my eyes deceive me

I also think the concepts hands are a bit larger

Fred2303

thanks guys for the comments!

Ok a small update here, still alot to go
added a couple of pieces, detailed abit of others!

Alot of pieaces on HIS left side ar just place holders and havent been mirrored yet to keep the polycount a bit lower


@ pancaakes: for the pose , the reason why i puted his arms a little bit more for from his body is to make the baking a little bit easier, ill try to get the right pose after that thanks alot!




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Shoy333

This is awesome fred cool to see that awesome concept brought to life!

Boyso

Looking great so far Freddy, cant wait to see it baked!

Fred2303

Thanks guys!!

Fred2303

a little new update



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iamxero

wow. I am so envious of your skills with modelling...

how long did this take so far?

Fred2303

Thanks alot for the comment Iamxero! very apprecieted! im a about 1 week and half into the modeling so far, but far from finished

dii

Wow dunno how I missed this, glad you sent the PM.
Lookin solid so far, I'm surprised you didn't change much of the armor. Especially around the knee area cause I pretty much bs'd those shapes LOL

Main thing that sticks out to me isthat I think you overdid the mask, especially around the neck area

I'd planned for the mask to be pretty flat in the front and I didn't really solve much of the neck originally because it's mostly going to be in shadow but I imagined it would be basically a cloth wrap going around the neck/head in the areas the mask didn't cover. Sort of like a ninja mask. The artifacts around the neck in the original concept are from when I resized the mask and missed some cleanup, there's no armor there.

This is more how I had imagined it:

I think the hood could stick out a little more also but you're free to change whatever.

Fred2303

Hey thanks alot for the crits and paintover, that really apprecieted!!

So i tried liked you said for the mask part and i do like it more! theres still some work to do around the face but design wise its more apealing.

I also moved alot of stuff to fix the anatomy around the shoulder/neck area

started detailed some stuff, added the sword.

I m also feeling that the knee area have some weird shapes now that you mentioned it! so i will try some other design later to si what i can make to replace it.

so heres my new update

By fred2303 at 2012-07-10

By fred2303 at 2012-07-10

any crits would be very apprecieted ! thanks guys!

whynot

Looking dope! Subscribed.

Did you start with a base mesh from max or maya or is this all zbrush?

Fred2303

thx Whynot!

Actually its a mix of both, i did some mesh in Max but Also did some bsemesh wih the Zsphere topology tool.

Fred2303

Another small update, changed the knee pad design , let me know what you guys think about it and about the progress so far!



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dii

Hey man sorry for the delayed critique, I think his heads enormous



I know the collar in the concept might be too low/narrow but I mean, you don't have to duplicate my mistakes. Just cause I suck at drawing doesnt mean you have to emulate it :P

A bit minor but I think the feet are a bit narrow.

Also just wanna say you're doing gorgeous work so far, especially in defining all the materials. Keep it up!

whynot

So he's got small feet and a large head.. what's the big deal?!

Yeah, I'm loving all the small details you're putting into this fella. I wish my zbrush skills were even close to this.

One thing that catches my eye is the edge of the boots (by the knee) and the edge of the shoulder armor. The thickness mainly. Maybe it's too perfect right now compared to the rest. Add some nicks and cuts on them perhaps? Although, all your metal armor looks perfect still. Not sure if you're going to add those details in or not..

keep killing it my friend; while I try to get motivate to make some rocks - in 3d! I might even texture them.

Fred2303

Thats some killer crits guys!! All Spot on! thank alot!!

Whynot: thnaks alot for the compliment thats really apreciated! For the armor parts, dont worry, they are far from being finished, ill polish them really soon!! and good luck on your rocks!

Dii: thank you so much for following this! your crits are REALLY helpfuls, ill make sur to fix those! and also i saw you new character concet, hes sooo badass!!

Ravanna

how on earth are you going to manage the low poly version?
Otherwise beautiful

PaulP

Looking badass so far! Can't think of much to crit, in the last render the toe side of the boots look kind of flat and thin for armored apparel, but I think that might just look like this from that perspective.

Can't wait to see how this turns out

Fred2303

thanks again guys for the comments!
heres anothe small updates! added details here and there.
still no work done onthe armor yet!

@ Ravana: yeah its gonna be a pretty hard task and will need some extra tris to keep all the details hope everything will work well !!



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butt_sahib

Looking sick man!

Blaisoid

awesome stuff!
i agree with Dii though, it would probably look better if chin was placed like on that paintover.

OrganizedChaos

You're doing a great job getting material definition on everything and looks like good progress so far. But I'm going to have to agree with Dii and Blasisoid in that right now the head is looking too big- that mask over his face reads to me like some sort of eyepiece now- that it isn't quite sitting on his face correctly.

Fred2303

Thanks guys !

so ive changed the msk and tried this, its on the chin now and is opened the eye area. tell me what you think about it.

im also thinking about adding this weapon in his hand:
http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/N/NI/NIN/Ninjademon0/1160856626_kusarigama.jpg


Things that i still need to work on:

-All the face area ( need to get a good design first)

-Wrist aand chest plate

-Pants +++

-New chain weapon

- And any crits that i have



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mr_ace

the detailing on this os absolutely fantastic Fred, this is looking to be a really solid character.

Care to share your process for the detailing on some of those parts?

Again, looking great

Fred2303

Thanks Mr Ace!

mainly for the details, i Used Dragged Alphas Combined with Layers+Morph targets

The bigger damages like one the botom of the shirt are sculptig with clay buildup.

thanks again!

Azkur

looking really sweet man love all the cloth detail cant wait to see it finished

dii

Ahhhh no one ever approves of my eyeless masks haha

Looking great so far, love what you did with the belts. I think the details are a bit imbalanced between the cloth and the metal pieces though and the metal could use more wear. Scratches n dents and the like. Have to say I'm not a huge fan of the rivets in the plates but your call.

The kusarigama would probably be a sweet addition.

Texelion

No seriously... excellent.

The only thing I could say is : what's this poor rope on the belt ? I mean, the guys is full of designed stuff and he uses a rope for the belt ? ^^ Or maybe it's an ex-hobo and he really likes this rope ?

Fred2303

thanks guys!

so first i brought back to full face mask

-Added armor damage
-added the new weapon ( the chain is maybe a little bit to big but ill fix it in the lowpoly)
-detailed the pants

and i decided also to the hobo rope hahahaha!



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tell me what you guys think, im still able to change a couple of thing before maknig it to low poly

Also bought a new domain because my website adress was way too long
new adress : Miaw3d.com hahah

http://youtu.be/KBdxQyPWgg0?t=3s

gilesruscoe

Yea the work put into this really shows, awesome job man. Zbrush only aswell, dayummm.

Low

I'm having a 3D boner right now!

motenai

That's an amazing model man! I'm really impressed with the quality and quantity of details you have on the whole model...
I'd be very grateful if you could explain me how you obtain so cool and detailed sufaces, what tecnique and alpha (if any) you've used. I've highlighed the areas i'm really interested in, in the screenshot below.
Also, when i do a character i struggle quite a bit when i've many overlapping elements, like clothes going on top of other cloths, or strings, and so on...how do you manage all those elements i see in your character?
Thanks

duncan

YEP... THIS IS ONE AWESOME PIECE OF ARTS!!!!!!!

Fred2303

Thanks you so much guys for the great comments! its really apprecieted!

@ motenai

FOr manging all the diferent overlapping pieces i dont have any particular tricks, i just try to mak sure that my proportions are alright (wich i always end up reworking ) before adding to much pieces.

For the surface details Basicly its a combinasion of :

- Alphas
- Layer
- Morph Target
- and a bit of sculpting

lets say i start with the orange part on the vest.

i first start a new layer and a morph target.
then i drag alphas of leather very rougly all over the places where i want them.
after that i just controle the intensity with the layers and use the morph brush for where i want it more or less.

At the end i think the key is really to experiment with different alphas and Combination and to have good references

Also all the alphas i used are in the download center of pixologic.

FOr the belly part i used Weave in the noise maker then sculpted with damn stadard + damage pass.



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hope this can help a little bit

and thanks again!

AlanSMitchell

HOLY CRAP Mega super awesome sexy pants DETAIL!

SimonT

Looks really bad ass

makecg

sexy as hell ! ! !

afisher

incredible work man! and thanks for the breakdown

RogerP

very well executed, keep it up

Fred2303

Thanks guys for the comments! colors WIP coming soon!

bcottage

looks fantastic. What madcap did you use? I have been searching for that look for ages!

Fred2303

Thx bcottage, i used 3, blinn for leather, basic material for cloth and metal for armor.

all slightly modified to my taste mainly in the spec/difuse

motenai

Man i couldn't ask for a better explanation!
Thank you very much, you tought me a new thing of two there
I owe you a favor

Illusive

the design and model is soo good!! i really like the design you used on the shoulder pads and the cloak is sweet! can't wait to see it when it's done

YBourykina

stunning job, i think the leather work is my favorite, and thank you so much for sharing with us your tricks, can't wait to see the low!

butt_sahib

Thanks alot for handing out the info!
Much appreciated!

Fred2303

Thks guys and update coming soon!

Artist_in_a_box

Man that is awesome, I wish I could sculpt details like that!