Looks like Substance is going to have a subscribe to own option, $20 a month for the indie versions of Painter, Designer, and Bitmap to material. Subscribe and cancel as much as you want. Any money spent on the subscription as automatically put towards paying for the full version, so once you spend as much as you would if you bought in one payment, you own it.
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Can anyone confirm the difference extends beyond these Stand Alone prices and the revenue you're allowed to make?
I also think the Substance Drop and Previews access is a nice value add.
I would much prefer this model for the other subs i have, but the benefit of the other subs is that you continue to get new versions and updates?
People who own a single software and want to upgrade to the full Indie/Pro pack will ahve to upgrade through the regular path.
Anyone already owning or u[grading to the Indie or Pro pack will automatically get a "LIVE" account and the same services as new LIVE subscribers.
@Autocon: Total final prices for the full pack are $318 for the Indie version and $1038 for the Pro version.
@Rurouni Strife: The only difference between the Pro and Indie version is the revenue limit.
BTW: do the similar thing for substance database.
On a side note, I think it would be best for the diagram to also include the total cost of the licenses, or put differently, the number of months of subscription required for a full license unlock. This could take the form of a little pie diagram, or something of that nature.
Because while I understand that this is *not* the regular kind of subscription, the visual communication around it makes it look a lot like one and it is unnecessarily muddying up the message.
In short : there is one crucial piece of information missing. We know the monthly fees, we know that they add up towards the acquisition of the full license, but we do not know actual price of the license.
That being said, great move guys ! Really strong approach.
What does this mean for big studios? It seems like both subscription options have a maximum revenue limitation now. Does this lift once you pay the price in full?
The LIVE monthly payment is really geared more toward indies and hobbyists.
+1 - because not every studio has something like uncle scrooge's money bin
Weird, I was able to add the full product to the cart, just not the live version. I will try making an account first.
Thanks Martin!
EDIT: Yup you were right. Thanks again!
I already own the Indie Pack, but when I'm logged in the site with my account, the LIVE menu says: "YOU DON'T HAVE SUBSTANCE LIVE YET".
Is there a way to a owner of the Indie Pack to subscribe the LIVE service and have their software updated to the lasted version?
Thank you for your attention!
Tried Painter, also not that impressed . Prefer 3d coat 4.5
So it's definitely not the price that prevent me from using them but rather features and convenience
I was considering upgrading SD with the 33% discount before March 4th, but when I saw this LIVE subscription model I decided to wait, as I also would like to upgrade BitmapToMaterial and have all the software of the Indie Pack up to date...
I missed the sale by a day?
Well, yes... There was a discount before March 4th in allegorithmic site for the upgrade of SD5.
Substance Live is the new name of the previous "Substance Pack". Live is both a set services and software.
You can have access to the services as soon as you own the 3 products SD5 / SP / B2M3, with the same license (all indie, or all pro).
If you already have have an Indie pack with SD4, you would just need to upgrade to SD5 for $75, and you will get access to Alive account.
Cheers,
Nicolas
so to put it simple, for now I own these products and I want to get updates (eg from 4->5) I need to get on LIVE (with paying $140 something for upgrade)?
I own Substance Designer 4 indie, I went to the live page and clicked on upgrade. I get to a page that says something along the lines of "upgrade to Substance Designer 5 for $75". So I click upgrade and my shopping cart says Substance Live for $75.
Am I getting the entire suite for $75 or just designer 5? I primarily want Painter, Designer 4 is good enough for my needs and I wasn't interested in B2M.
Whats the benefits of having live compare to buy separately? Its a bit confusing.