[DS2] Axe, Piflik

Piflik

I really liked the first game and I am looking forward to the sequel. Also I am always eager for a reason to create something, so here is the first impression of my take on an angelic axe.



Pretty basic shapes, but I like circles

I'll have to play a bit with the proportions to fit it into the tamplate.
The blades will stay unconnected to the rest and just float there by magic.

Texture will be gold and blue, maybe wood for the shaft. Some engravings on the circles.

I also have an idea for a more evil looking mace, I hope I'll have enough time/energy to do both.

Seirei

Damn, this looks already better than my angelic axe. Back to the drawing-board then.

Very interesting design, I'll definetly keep an eye on this one.

Habboi

I hope you add a gem or two. Perhaps the middle could be a red jewel. Keep it up.

Piflik

Habboi wrote: »

I hope you add a gem or two. Perhaps the middle could be a red jewel. Keep it up.

Damn...why couldn't I see that...a gem instead of the spheres...that would make a good eye-catcher...thanks. :thumbup:

Habboi

Heh guess where I got that idea? From looking at their reference pictures. Really look at their ideas and break down what each one has. Cause it can be quite overwhelming figuring out a design at first.

ShootandRun

cool i like the blockout you have so far
kinda reminds me of the staff of Ra, and hey its got wings in it for angelic :P

Piflik

Yeah...I also had that staff in mind when thinking about the gem-idea. But in the end I decided against such a broad setting for the gem and instead made the ring around it broader.



I will add the angelic runes in Photoshop, once I found a good reference...

BoBo_the_seal

Looking good! I'm afraid we can't do floating pieces. These weapons will have to fit existing animation rigs. We won't be able to put custom animations on them. Your shapes could easily be connected with inset rings or braces.

- BoBo

Piflik

They aren't intended to move...it would be cool if they did, but I didn't think it would be possible...but I can add some fixtures, if it looks too strange with floating, but not moving parts...

BoBo_the_seal

Check out the Live stream tonight. I'm actually going to be working on a weapon that has rings in the design. It might give you some ideas.

Piflik

Added some braces, but I'm not sure if I like it...in any case I would have to eliminate 500 tris from my current lowpoly mesh to fit them. Probably doing something different...

Di$array

You've done a great job with the beams and they are kept up the style of your piece as well.

Habboi

Only issue I can think of is the thin bits in the middle. They might have some nasty results if they're not anti-aliased on the consoles.

Progg

Careful with really thin things. Think chunkier shapes

Piflik

Different alternatives...some are just variations on the current braces, the other two use the wing-motif...but before I decide, I will watch Bobo's stream tonight, or rather tomorrow,,,it's too late for me here

EVIL

I'd go with A, or something a bit more crazy, the curve of the wings on B look a bit weird how they intersect with the rings. C and D are to fragile looking. Maybe try to go in a kind of gears of war logo cog wheel direction?

Piflik

After seeing the Livestream I couldn't resist to see how it looks with some spikes.

Impala88

tbh i really like B, really gives more of an angelic feel than the rest, although A also works well. The rest just seem a bit to either tech based or look like something from chaos.

Di$array

Yeah A and B are the strong designs. The current design is heading towards Warhammer fantasy.

Piflik

Another variation...

MiAlx

Hmm, dunno. This looks a bit too much like a steering wheel..

Jokes aside. I think the "closed" blade^ is looking less "dangerous", you know, than the rest of the open top axes . My favorite still is the "B" variant. It's very elegant and is, together with A, the strongest. Looking forward to seeing your progress, good luck

Blaisoid

yeah, B and A seem the best so far.

Habboi

Yeah A and B on your older pic was heading in the right direction. Also I wish you'd make the blade more chunky.

POFFINGTON

Nice solution to what you had going on earlier! Keep up the good work!

Piflik

Thanks for all the comments. Here are two variations of B with the overall shape of A, second time upside down like in the last image.

ozzmeister00

I'm a fan of the one in the bottom right.

Navillus

I Agree with Ozz, also I know it's an Angel Axe and is supposed to be this neat and pretty object, but I think you should try to play with some asymmetry, even if it's just with some damage on one side. I really like the direction it's going.

Piflik

After being mostly lazy and unproductive the whole weekend I have started texturing today...not too happy with where it is heading though...maybe I can salvage something...

Daven

I get what you're saying. The shapes are nice, but I'm having a hard time relating it to the game's style.

Piflik

I replaced the Rune-Ring with one made from stone, but although it is better (methinks) I'm still not happy...I'm close to calling this a failure...

Pierate

I reckon the problem might be the yellow/gold, looking at the references it seems like angelic weapons have a desatured orangeish thing going rather then actual gold. Perhaps try working with some toned down colors and using gold for detailing? Keep it up man.

Piflik

While surfing the Darksiders wiki I had an idea for an alternative axe, but I am not sure if I want to pursue it further, since it is nothing more than a rework of this concept...

Daven

Yeah..... I'm gonna say that's a big ol' no.

Using existing work as an inspiration for your own stuff is fine, but actually taking the concept art and slapping it together with some extra brush strokes isn't going to get you very far.

It seems like you need time to get comfortable with the style instead of just rushing into another model. Pulling 2d concepts like cross-hatching into your 3d scope is one way that Darksiders emulates it's comic inspiration. If you can pull from the shapes and colors and be patient with your design, I think you'd be much happier with yourself as an artist than just ripping existing concept art and trying to model it. I know there's a deadline, but take your time.

Your last model wasn't bad, I just didn't match the style of the game. I'd say scrap this and give it another shot.

ENODMI

Ha, I had a similar idea and sketch in my thread, a Samael Axe. Abstract it a bit more or mix it up with some more Darksiders elements and see where you end up. Its a great idea for a starting point, just needs taken further. good luck

Piflik

New idea. It once was a mace, but three of four blades have broken off...



Still needs a pommel.

chemotoledo

I think that the Angelicall Weapon texture need some subtile details like scratches on some areas that have contact with other things. A little varietion in the way theat reflex and color react....