Think outside the gun

waedoe

Well all ive ever modeled is guns, and you know what! to hell with guns time to do a herro cropter! any way im working on a ch47 and i finally gave up trying to set up refs in view port so im mainly just free perspective modeling and it feels great not to be 100% anal about porportions. So what i have so far is the first pass on the hp nose section and im going to work on the rear next. my thiking is that the helo will come together in the middle since its just like an elongated tube (No penis jokes please :P) any way with out further ado, still an early wip. If any one has any comments or suggestions please feel free to share!

Brendan

It looks like they ran out of parts on the nose, then in their desperation ripped the hood off a VW Beetle and stuck it on. I think you've managed to capture this in your model.

Only piece of advice I can give is to watch out for the doors. It's really easy to make the door normals not fall in line with the normals of the rest of the thing, even in hi-poly (500k+) vehicles. What you can do is subdivide a bunch, then cut out your doors, then clean it up. That usually helps keep the doors pointing in the right direction, which makes it not look like ass when it reflects stuff.

waedoe

whaddup HELO more progresion. Biggest problem im having is make the porportions look correct. Im not modeling from any blueprints just angle shots, figured it would be a decent way to help me pay attention to details. any way im not going for 100% accuracy but if you guys see any major flaws thus far please point them out! and i realize there are numerous variations of this helo so not all have the same features. im not working from one model number so im pretty sure im mixing and matching different features. Well with out further ado:

burtonyang

Post your the reference from what you're working from first and foremost, most of us are lazy probably..anyway the best way to check for proportion is to use something on the model and measure it against something else. Right now that window hole looks super huge compared to everything else when it's supposed to be a lot smaller. Also, the rotors look way too small to lift what you have right now. The scale of the body of the helicopter looks off also.

Check out this awesome side view I found for you. Don't you feel silly about your proportions now? I hope this helps out.

waedoe

sweet thanks for pointing that out. i need to make the back slope down a little more too. and totally right about the blades they are way to short (kinda of place holders right now [alas no excuse]) ill get right on it. looks like i might need to raise the fusalage up a little too. my my

Xoliul

waedoe wrote: »

whaddup HELO more progresion. Biggest problem im having is make the porportions look correct. Im not modeling from any blueprints just angle shots, figured it would be a decent way to help me pay attention to details. any way im not going for 100% accuracy but if you guys see any major flaws thus far please point them out!

Either you go fully accurate or you think it through really well why you're not going to (like your own thought through fictional design). Otherwise it's just an excuse for being sloppy and careless. Which is going to hurt you in the end.

waedoe

Xoliul wrote: »

Either you go fully accurate or you think it through really well why you're not going to (like your own thought through fictional design). Otherwise it's just an excuse for being sloppy and careless. Which is going to hurt you in the end.

You're right. and with that in mind, i am not going to be lazy therefore ill make this as accurate as possible. Thanks for the perspective :thumbup:.

well heres an update. i was having trouble with the rear hatch but i think Ive got it blocked out alright (still a lot of detail to add on it). ill be moving on to the landing wheels next. I also fiddled extensively with the proportions of the helo. (shortened the pilot cab, shortened the whole helo, moved the windows, re did the side window towards the front, welded the engines to the chassis. all in all i think its shaping up quite well right now. thanks for the feed back so far guys, i hope you feel im taking you comments into consideration.

waedoe

added engines

waedoe

worked on the proportions some more and started on the inside. slowly but surely she is coming together!

Cheese_Shinobi

Right now it seems like the interior girders(is that the right word?) isnt symmetricly placed. Other than that, I say it looks promising, but do post some refs aswell.

Harry

oh man i didnt realise you were doing this with no ortho refs. use google man, god

http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/Drawings/Structure/Structure.html

waedoe

Harry wrote: »

oh man i didnt realise you were doing this with no ortho refs. use google man, god

http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/Drawings/Structure/Structure.html

lol so are you saying the proportions are still horribly off?

burtonyang

waedoe wrote: »

lol so are you saying the proportions are still horribly off?

I would say yes.

waedoe

more work on the interior. Im just going to wire the rear scaffolding and then this project should be about complete and then on to low poly baking

Ghostscape

SHRINK THE FUCKING SIDE WINDOWS

These things hold 30-50 dudes fully loaded. The interiors look nothing like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flickr_-_The_U.S._Army_-_www.Army.mil_%28193%29.jpg

Either model a Chinook, or model something that clearly isn't a Chinook.

mxb8924

Ghostscape wrote: »

SHRINK THE FUCKING SIDE WINDOWS

These things hold 30-50 dudes fully loaded. The interiors look nothing like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flickr_-_The_U.S._Army_-_www.Army.mil_%28193%29.jpg

Either model a Chinook, or model something that clearly isn't a Chinook.

You cant even see the windows in the new render? Also there are flaws, but why are you trying to make it seem like its totally off? It seems to be a bit narrow, but thats judging off this picture and the seating is folded up. Like to see other angles.
http://greekmilitary.net/webzoom.freewebs.com/gfile/Pictures_CH-47_ch47_inside.jpg

Joshflighter

Ghostscape wrote: »

SHRINK THE FUCKING SIDE WINDOWS

These things hold 30-50 dudes fully loaded. The interiors look nothing like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flickr_-_The_U.S._Army_-_www.Army.mil_%28193%29.jpg

Either model a Chinook, or model something that clearly isn't a Chinook.

Wow, way to be rude man.

To OP:I suggest definitely going back and check the new reference's that have been posted to make sure your model is more accurate.
keep going with this man!

waedoe

Thanks for crits so far. Ill have a better update when I get home but this is the most recent pics of the cocjpit and the exterior. And I realize the enormity of these helos. That said I dont think the scale is horribly off but I know its off a bit as ive free modeled this and didnt use any pics in viewport which was a mistake. Hopefully this gives a better idea of its shapes thanks for looking

waedoe

Le Fin





more renders tomorrow im tired!

Spitfire

Wow very nice, keep it going, this is gonna be awesome
Try working in some of that detailwork on the outside aswell so you get a more even detail spread.

Looks awesome!

Oiban

looking greaaat! love the interior and the cockpit!

waedoe

so i would like to try my hand at putting in the panels and rivets for the body by sub d modeling them. is there any tips or tutorials on how to get them to conform to the shape of the chassis?

Racer445

what i'd do is model one rivet floating and use a script like object painter to place instances of it on the body. do one half then just duplicate and flip to make the other side.

http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/objectpainter

dogzer

MOAR!!