Lowpoly Blizzard style env props

Cremuss
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Cremuss polycounter lvl 7
Hello dear polycount !

I'd like to have feedbacks of the last piece I'm working on to get my portfolio "done".

I took a concept art from blizzard and tried to make it in 3d, just to practice :)

blizzadboat_wip2_1_small.jpg
blizzadboat_wip2_2_small.jpg
blizzadboat_wip2_3_small.jpg

Excuse the aliasing, nvidia antialias doesn't work anymore with blender 2.5 and render antialias engine looks way to blurry to me :/

Screenshot are taken from Blender viewport. Hand painted textures made with gimp. Boat tricount is 3000. Everything is shadeless (lights are for later :))

Even if the concept art is supposed to be for WoW, the goal was to make something that would fit, technically and visually, to diablo or any other rpg.

The model is considered done, but I'm open to any suggestions to improve the textures :poly142: !! I know polycount is great to have some serious feedbacks :)

Hope you like it, feel free to critics !
Thanks :)

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  • hobodactyl
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    hobodactyl polycounter lvl 12
    Don't really have time to crit right now, but I like it :) The main thing that sticks out to me is the UV stretching on the wooden planks for the main body of the ship. Keep it up!
  • stimpack
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    stimpack polycounter lvl 10
    neat! i dig it, only thing i dont dig is the ground.....i couldnt really make out what it was...i halfway though it was a boat coming through some weird fog cloud thing. Had to view concept to realize it was ground.
  • Snader
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    Snader polycounter lvl 9
    Could you show us the UV? I have a feeling that you're placing the wood maps ineffectively.

    I also think that, for Blizzard, this is a bit too realistic - both the texture and the model. It's missing some chunkyness and bright happy colors.

    And although it's not visible in the concept, I think you need a wooden beam in the center of the bow
  • Jungsik
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    Jungsik polycounter lvl 6
    you should have brighter colors! it doesnt look very blizzard-like

    what Snader said <_<
  • Sukotto
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    Sukotto polycounter lvl 6
    This is nicely done but the wood on the boat is all wrong. Boats aren't just shells of wrapped wood, they have two sides that connect at the bow, like what Snader said.
  • Cremuss
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    Cremuss polycounter lvl 7
    thanks for the quick replies ! :poly121:

    here is the uvmap :

    blizzadboat_wip2_wire.jpg

    hobodactyl > The uvmap isn't even stretched :poly136: I suppose it's the texture it self that gives this feel :poly122:

    blizzadboat_wip2_checker.jpg

    stimpack > Is it the sand texture or the weird alpha map I put on the ground to make this 'island' that troubles you ? Maybe a real pedestal would be better ?

    Snader > I'm aware that my style is a bit different from Blizzard. copying the very cartoonish blizzard style wasn't my first intention, but I'd try to get more saturation and colors to get closer to it :poly121:

    You'r right about the "wooden beam", I don't even know how a ship is made :poly136:. I'll add one :)

    update soon, thank you for the critics !
  • Snader
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    Snader polycounter lvl 9
    Right - you have plenty of loops and polies to map one plank to 1 or 2 quads, or to work with rows, so why not do so? This would give you some interesting possibilities.

    I'd make one X/Y tiling part - to be used everywhere, one X tiling part to blend with the floor, and one X tiling part with broken planks. You could use these parts tiling, but you can ofcourse also grab loose planks on a per-poly basis.

    shipwrecktex.PNG
    This texture would also be usable on other objects in the area, keeping memory costs down. (MMO)RPG's tend to rely heavily on tiling, modular, reusable textures.

    I think, but I'm not entirely sure about it, that the 'stretched texture' look is due to 2 things:the boards having slanted edges(\______\ instead of |_______|) and because of the bent UV unwrap which makes painting harder.

    As for the color, no need to make everything bright and joy. Just push the general saturation up a pinch, and then add some coloured elements, such as the flag a brightish orange, faded/scraped yellow paint on the guard rails and goblin statue, and some coloured objects on the inside.
  • Tea Monster
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    Tea Monster polycounter lvl 8
    Like the general look of it.

    Agreed with others that you need a keel to run down the bottom of the ship. It just looks strange without it. It will also help break up that huge expanse of planking on the hull, which looks kind of bleh at the moment.

    If you get one of the bleeding-edge versions of 2.55 off of Graphicall.org, they instituted GL Viewport anti-aliasing recently. :)
  • Cremuss
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    Cremuss polycounter lvl 7
    Hello :)

    I've been very busy trying to take care of what you all said. I did a pretty large amount of changes.

    blizzadboat_wip3_1.jpg
    blizzadboat_wip3_2.jpg

    Snader > Thanks for the tip ! I usually pay more attention to uvs but I often run down to problems with AO and things like that when doing so. This time I just wanted to be sure time I could do what I really wanted to do. So yeah that's why the uv map isn't really optimized :poly136:
    The tiling tip sounds cool, I will try it during a next project :)
    I guess it's a little bit late to tweak the uv on this model, well I could do it but I'm to bored to do so :poly141:

    Tea Monster > Cool ! I have blender 2.55 but I don't know how to turn on the viewport antialias and google doesn't gave me the answer ^^ Do you know how to turn it on ?

    Thank you guys for critics, it helps me a lot ! :poly121:
    Update/beauty shot soon
    cya
  • RiotForQuiet
    Looking much better man. I don't like the way the shadows are casting on our left side of the hut. It looks like it is floating above the sand on that side. I think you need to crash it just ever so slightly into the sand on that side, so it does not have that shadow.

    Also what are those little balls hanging off the rope? Are they skulls? Are they bones? They are not very bone shaped. I would maybe make them like small ivory tusks or something. The round shape is just not working for me.

    Other than that, I like it. Nice textures on the second round.
  • Cremuss
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    Cremuss polycounter lvl 7
    Hello :)

    bretmcnee > Thank you ! Honnestly I don't know what are these little balls. I just wanted to respect the concept art :D, I guess it's some sort of little bags that contains magic sand to keep away evil :poly124:

    Anyway, this one is considered done. Thanks a lot for the critics, it helped a lot ! Polycount is definitly a good place to progress :poly142:
    I'll come back to get critics for my next project soon, that's sure :)

    blizzardboat_1_big.jpg
    blizzardboat_2_big.jpg

    Bye !
  • jakelear
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    jakelear polycounter lvl 7
    Cool prop man. Nice progress from the first iteration. Looking forward to seeing more from you in the future!
  • shotgun
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    shotgun polycounter lvl 12
    Yes, very nice execution. I think that without the light(s), it needs a stronger color pop, a touch of just the same yellow/orange on the flag or somewhere. Show that this can stand on its own w/o the lights.
  • d1ver
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    d1ver polycounter lvl 9
    Great work, man!
    I know, that you consider it finished, but I think that just a little touch will help the model pop out more. Add some juicy color. 'Cause now it's all brown. You could make the flag reddish and then add a little bright red detail somewhere inside so they would tie each other in the scene. Or you could just play with hues a little more.
    It's really a great job and it would be a pity not to see it become the strongest it can be.

    good luck
  • MainManiac
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    MainManiac polycounter lvl 6
    What is this rendered in?
  • Tea Monster
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    Tea Monster polycounter lvl 8
    I was under the impression that it was automatic on later builds from Graphicall. I've tried it on mine and I don't see any controls to turn it on or off. I'll look into it though.
  • Cremuss
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    Cremuss polycounter lvl 7
    Hey thanks for the comments :)

    jakelear > thx ! new prop soon :poly142: something bigger :poly121:

    shotgun & d1ver > thanks ! Maybe I'll try for one last shot to make some improvement with the colors but I'm not sure yet because I already started a new piece. But yeah I really need to improve the way I work with colors :poly122:

    frell & Hboybowen > yes it was taken from blender's viewport. I made a little post prod with the screenshot with the lighting to add the little glow and bloom :)
    Blender's BGE isn't really good for FX :poly141:

    Tea Monster > I've absolutly no idea. I'm interested if you find anything about it ;)

    cya
  • kat
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    kat polycounter lvl 11
    Just popping in to say *thumbsup* for doing something 'serious' like this in Blender.. makes a refreshing change to see well thought out and built models and renders.
  • ceej010
    This matches Blizzard's style very well. Do you mind posting the finished texture maps? I would be interested to see them. Thanks.
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