Squaresoft Town

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Okay, it's been a while. Here's a new project of mine.

I'm using a Squaresoft concept painting as a springboard to experiment with simple, clean textures and parallax mapping! (but not overboard :poly142:).

chocobos-dungeon-toki-wasure-no-meikyuu-20070920031057404_640w.jpg

Pretty cool. Now, I just started learning Sandbox 2 this last weekend, since UT3 just wasn't cutting it. So, here's a couple test props in Sandbox:

SquareComp.jpg
Lamp ~ 1600 tri -- 256X512
Barrel ~ 320 tri -- 256X256
Statue ~ 1600 tri -- 256X512
Sign ~ 900 tri -- 256X256
Enviro Sheets -- 512X512


Tell me what you think needs improving. Otherwise I'm just going to use this as a WIP thread as things come along. Also, I have two monitors now, and for the first time color/contrast accuracy is hazy. Anyone use a colorimeter ? (the difference between my two monitors is pretty crazy)

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  • Mazvix
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    Are you handpainting it all of it or you are mixing photo source? I recommend having diff variations on the lamp post- one bent and other straight, just like the concept. This indeed is an awesome concept. I might do it in the future :P hoping to see more!
  • cycloverid
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    Mazvix wrote: »
    Are you handpainting it all of it or you are mixing photo source? I recommend having diff variations on the lamp post- one bent and other straight, just like the concept. This indeed is an awesome concept. I might do it in the future :P hoping to see more!

    Thanks for the advice, the multiple lamp instances is a great idea.

    I'm using a mix between high poly modeling and sculpting on top of some hand-painting. It'll be tricky to get clean. There are still some crisp seams I wish I could remove, but such is the state of current normal mapping technology.
  • Shogun3d
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    I'd try and stick with a basic color palette for your assets as a lot of the colors can be unified with the lighting. Colors/Brightness/Contrast look fine on my screen right now.

    This piece should be awesome, given you pull it off :)
  • shinobix
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    Wow good start cycloverid! I really like the cobble stone texture you made, and the wood sign is starting to look pretty pimp!
  • MattW
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    Lookin really nice, the pavers could use a bit more color variation like you have in the walls. Out of curiosity, do you know what the concept was for?

    Edit: Looks like from the name of the file it was a chocobo's dungeon game.
  • SHEPEIRO
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    sweet
    i would keep the diffuse clean and as simple as poss for now, get the environment worked up with shaders then see how much you need to add
  • HAL
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    cycloverid wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice, the multiple lamp instances is a great idea.

    I'm using a mix between high poly modeling and sculpting on top of some hand-painting. It'll be tricky to get clean. There are still some crisp seams I wish I could remove, but such is the state of current normal mapping technology.

    Why exactly do you habe those seams, got any closeups for us? maybe it can be solved :3
  • FlyByKnight
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    Looking good so far, cant wait to see more! :)
  • mheyman
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    I'm loving this stuff, can't wait to see some progress!
  • cycloverid
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    I'm just going to post up a in-editor paintover. As I'm fleshing out details, it'd be nice to get a little feedback.

    LevelPaintOver.jpg

    The terrain editor in Crysis is giving me problems, so that isn't showing up for now. The final cropping will be different, as I haven't figured out how to adjust a camera while looking through it. The red lines indicate some composition changes.

    This is a big ass scene, so I've got my work cut out for me! I'll probably post up some props, as soon as I get a few more done.

    Edit: I need to figure out something in terms of getting a higher res shot. Perhaps adjusting my monitor to portrait instead of landscape for the screen-cap. The perspective in the concept art is crazy, and I'm going to try to get some of that nice curvature in the models.
  • buddikaman
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    Looking good.

    -Buddikaman
  • Marcan
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    Great work, keep it up.

    I love the sort of pastel colour palette going on in the concept art. If you can manage to get this vibe going in your editor it'd be nice!

    Can't wait to see some more textures.
  • ikken
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    Looking cool
    I'm feeling nostalgic, lol :)
  • JasonLavoie
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    woooowww.... this is awesome, keeping an eye on this one for sure!
  • PhattyEwok
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    Here's a question for you. On the face of the buildings are those floaters? (the windows doors molding etc)

    And 2nd.....
    not to thread jack, but what are the pros and cons of having floaters in the game engine vs a continuous mesh?
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    PhattyEwok wrote: »
    Here's a question for you. On the face of the buildings are those floaters? (the windows doors molding etc)

    And 2nd.....
    not to thread jack, but what are the pros and cons of having floaters in the game engine vs a continuous mesh?

    Quite a bit of the geo is floating atm. Some of the struts running up the buildings aren't. There aren't many downsides to using floating geo, it just saves time modeling. Your UV's will be cleaner if you keep it manifold, but for tileable stuff like this it isn't a problem.

    Funny that you should ask this though. These particular props, if given a deformer to get some of that nice curvature going, might not deform correctly with the floating geo I have. It will have to be done carefully.
  • killingpeople
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    You are owning this dude!
  • cycloverid
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    Well this is a pretty pathetic update, but I'm thinking about opening up the scene a bit horizontally, so it isn't so vertical. I spent a good number of days figuring out the terrain editor (which I probably won't need) and playing with the clouds (can only edit by hand with xml?). There is so little documentation on sandbox2!

    LevelPaintOver5.jpg

    Too much empty space? It'll be a good day when I can stop blobbing paint on my update images!

    Things are going to be a lot smoother now though.

    Edit: Oh, and have a good laugh at the tri-count. Incidentally, my scene is only about 60k right now. That's sandbox for you.
  • mheyman
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    Really great stuff. Super inspiring and I can't wait to see the end result.
  • Tactical Bagpipe
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    Very nice! Inspiring.
  • griffinax
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    This looks something out of Flyff, sweet work. Keep it up!
  • adam
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    Shots for review are useless without seeing some wires. Let's see how you're making these assets as well as the scene itself.

    I would try and nail your composition early before you dress the scene. Right now you're running with a pretty standard (read: safe) composition. This scene could get a lot of attitude from something a bit more dynamic (tilted camera, higher FOV, closer to the ground, etc. etc. All things you could try.) I wouldn't mimic the concepts view of this town, but instead use it as a basis for your building designs (which you have) then give us a whole new perspective on this area of town.

    As for multiple streetlamps/variance in props: You could easily make 1 lamp that has a bend in it, and rotate it with each new instance that is placed. This way you'll end up with some straight, some bent, and all looking different - all while using one asset.

    Are you going to fill out the left side (our left) of the building farthest to the left or keep it opened like that? If you rotate the camera to our right a bit, you could skip making new art for that and have that building (or tree) be what blocks the view past the little town here.
  • divi
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    looks great.
    really interested in individual asset shots
  • Razorb
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  • cycloverid
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    Hey guys,

    I randomly got a job 1 month ago (shortly after my last post), so I've just been picking away at it.

    Adam: Thank you so much for your input on this... I have tried to take everything you said into consideration. The shot could still be more extreme, but I do want it to be somewhat of an 'establishing' shot.

    If you really nitpick, there are some lighting problems, but mostly because Sandbox2 has no light baking. I learned at work about the value of AO vertex bakes, and have included it here (perhaps it's too strong? - but looks pretty good IMO).

    SquareBeauty.jpg
    Can't figure out how to get rid of the Info (top right)!

    WireframeSquare.jpg

    StatueProp.jpg


    Sorry about not posting more wires/props, but I'm tired :(

    I've learned a lot from this project, and will next time refrain from doing fan art. It's so fun though!
  • A.Kincade
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    Wow!!! This turned out awesome. Very well done. Congrats on the job as well.
  • ikken
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    Amazing work!
  • tda
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    nice scene dude!

    if i recall, "cl_displayinfo 0" should get rid of that garble in the top right for ya
  • throttlekitty
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    Nice work, it's got lots of character to it!
    And how do you just 'randomly' get a job?
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    looks awesome, Id really like to see how you laid out uvs for those buildings? are they made up of modular parts?
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