Character piece for portfolio, looking for feedback to make changes

Kiyamlol

Hi polycount.

Current: 
This is a realistic character attempt I would like to add to my portfolio. It is based on a cyber punk young man concept done by Kuru.


I wanted to do this awhile ago but felt I still had a lot to learn so I am giving it a shot now.

This is my progress of the sculpt so far but I still feel it needs changes.



I went ahead and did a test render of the head in MT3. The head is still tweakable and rebaked. Does it look arlight or does anything stand out looking wierd? I am not sure looknig at it on my own.



I would be very greatful for some feedback as I would like to implement changes where needed. 

Thank you

JohannesAg

hey looks cool, one thing that seems a little off to me though is how flat his brow is. it makes his forehead seem kinda boxy, I might pull the corner of his brow just a bit back

Kiyamlol

Thank you JohannesAg. I am working on it I
agree I feel liek a lot of detail from the sculpt and contouring is lost in the low poly making it look flat in some areas. Ill try to make it look better.

Notte

hey nice trousers! Are all folds from marvelous?
I know it's probably too late to change the sculpt but I think that face area compared to skull is too small also nostrils seem to be too flat.

Kiyamlol

Notte said:

hey nice trousers! Are all folds from marvelous?
I know it's probably too late to change the sculpt but I think that face area compared to skull is too small also nostrils seem to be too flat.

Hi Notte, 

Thank you for the critique Yes the trousers is made from marvelous and refined in zbrush. The head can still be tweaked. I was actually modelling him based around James Mc avoy as reference. . I feel like I could do better. Do you think the rest of teh cranium is too big?  I went and tried to make his bony nose and buldge as the pic. What do you mean the nostril is too flat? Do you mean from the front? (the holes)

Here is a wip of the head, i jsut realized hsi head is too big in zbrush! I kinda enlarged it in maya to give more volume to the head ^^; Brought it back down. This is my ref board that i was using 

Notte

Cranium now looks much better
Sorry for rough lines and minimalistic approach to feedback but I won't have access to my wacom or photoshop in following days. And I couldn't leave you without explanation

Looks like you miss one plane of the nose around nostrils (green lines - check shiny line on the photo - this is the palce where planes meet). Then nose flaps will have more volume.
Check angle of the red line. In reference it seems to be a bit steeper.





Hope it'll help Cheers!

slosh

The forehead is very flat.  Definitely round that out a bit more.  For the skin texture, it feels like there is a weird grey noise throughout.  That looks strange to me.  I would focus on colors zones of the face but in more broad discoloration instead of noise.  It almost looks like photoshop colored noise.  I'm also seeing greens in the hair which looks a bit odd as well.  It's fine to add in color via lighting but adding that kind of color into hair that is supposed to just be brown is strange IMO.  Still, this is off to a nice start!

carvuliero

Maybe you should check his face proportion/relations again , all of his face features are bunch up like in asian face and appear flat also please fix his skull he has box for a forehead  , you could also add him a proper zygomatic arch 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Skull_inner_surface.jpg/787px-Skull_inner_surface.jpg
http://bio.sunyorange.edu/updated2/comparative_anatomy/anat_3/skull_nasallacrimal/7h.jpg

Mohamed_Salah_Bchir

I think the nose tip should be pushed back and up a little

Kiyamlol

Thank you for the feedback I feel encouraged to rework on parts of the head as much as I can. Here is where I got so far with the nose , overall shape, cranium, nosrils, jaw and zygomatic arch. I still think it needs mroe work but it looks better now I hope?

I did some work on the nostrils but it still is messy I will try to make it look even better,
I agree the forehead was so flat,I tried making it rounder and I need think it probably needs more.
I was having a challenge getting his arch to look right. I had to keep transposing the cheeckbone position to get ther right the position but I think I can refine it even further.


I am still not happy with it I will try to refine it even more. I think it looks alot more like James Mc Avoy now though

UPDATE: 
 Will keep working on it, the feedback is well appreciated!!

Kiyamlol

taking his face mroe seriously to look like JMC. I think its gotten closer now. Will redo his secondary and tertiary detailsand try another test

Brian "Panda" Choi

Whoa, what matcap is that one?

Kiyamlol

Brian "Panda" Choi said:

Whoa, what matcap is that one?

Its Frank Tzeng's, I got it from his likeness zbrush sculpting tutorial:
https://gumroad.com/frank_tzeng_art

Kiyamlol

I think the face looks alright now so I retopped the head because it had so many new changes. Gona test texturing with some pbr scans.

carvuliero

Look like his brow still shooting to much forward  ,ears are too big especially the lobe . you could give him a better looking jaw line , center part(bridge + tip) of his nose could be thinner 
brow:
https://www.celebritysizes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/James-McAvoy.jpg
http://7wallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/18_James-Mcavoy.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/cd/c5/5bcdc55278bc8121281e2df44465ba8a.jpg
ear:
http://www.superiorpics.com/movie_pictures/mp/2010_The_Last_Station/2009_the_last_station_009.jpg
http://img.lady.ru/data/uphoto/2/4/9660/large/362618.jpg
nose:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2011/04/james_mcavoy-2011-a-p.jpg

Kiyamlol

carvuliero said:

Look like his brow still shooting to much forward  ,ears are too big especially the lobe . you could give him a better looking jaw line , center part(bridge + tip) of his nose could be thinner 
brow:
https://www.celebritysizes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/James-McAvoy.jpg
http://7wallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/18_James-Mcavoy.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/cd/c5/5bcdc55278bc8121281e2df44465ba8a.jpg
ear:
http://www.superiorpics.com/movie_pictures/mp/2010_The_Last_Station/2009_the_last_station_009.jpg
http://img.lady.ru/data/uphoto/2/4/9660/large/362618.jpg
nose:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2011/04/james_mcavoy-2011-a-p.jpg

Thank you carvuliero, I am on it. I can see his ears really are too big,  i can tone down the brow and thinner nose tip. For the jawline I am not so sure what else to do. He seems to have a rounded jaw than a squared one. 

carvuliero

Bulk up the masseter and extend jaw ramus 

Kiyamlol

carvuliero said:

Bulk up the masseter and extend jaw ramus 

Thank you carvuliero, that helps me alot Will post updates soon

Kiyamlol

Did mroe work on the jaw, underjaw, neck, nose, brows, cranium, ears, size, and overall shape. This is where it is so far for th evening. I took out most of the hyperdetail as I found it looking noisy. I want to test and see how it will look doing the hyper stuff in substance painter instead.

Its late so I will do more later Goodnight

Kiyamlol

Updated head and textures, I think its more improved than the first one. What are you thoughts? Anything to make it better?

Kiyamlol

Rework on the head...I think it is an imrpvoement from the first. Hmmm, is there anythnig off? Does it look passable for a game render? I hope it works out. I will have to rework on the hair too.

Brian "Panda" Choi

For sure an improvement for the likeness. 

Kiyamlol

Brian "Panda" Choi said:

For sure an improvement for the likeness. 

Thank you Brian Do you think there is anything awkward? I am currently wondering if its safe to proceed baking out the rest of the body now 

added some fuzz map, toned down the normals

Kiyamlol

Where it is so far. I think its almostt done just need to add his little bot. Stressful exercise 



Hair without hat clipping.