The Albatross Spaceship

NAIMA

Hello ,  after lot of learning , testing , problems, crashes of pc and working on uvs , textures and all ...

Here is what I could manage to do ...


Here is the earlier WIP thread : http://polycount.com/discussion/169587/spaceship-hardsurface-subdivision-polymodeling-learning-and-help#latest


Here are some images.....


Please be nice and tell me everything that is good or bad about modeling , composition , texturing and so on that you can tell me about those images , how would you rate them what would you have done different or change or that is not good..... and may be if you think that it could be or not a good portfolio piece. I spent almoust two months working on this and I followed most of the lessons for high poly modeling by online sources learning the tricks and the workflow .
 
Those images are huge 5000 px so right click to visualize and enlarge ...

NAIMA

A frontal view .

NAIMA

Another Image , side view:

Madwish

First of all congratulations on finishing the ship, it's been really cool following your progress.

I'm not an expert at precalculated render, so I probably won't be the best guy to offer constructive criticisms for you. I would say two things are a bit annoying though:

- The reflections look a bit weird. They're sometimes quite noisy and look "basic". The right part on the ship in the second screenshot especially.. I'm not sure which renderer you are using here and why that is, but I would expect something more refined.
- The ship and the little guys look really cool, and the idea of placing context is neat. Sometimes the background doesn't really work as well however, and it's a bit unfortunate. Portfolio are judged on the weakest link too, and in this case the environments are sometimes reducing the quality of your work on the ship. The 2D integration is not perfect all the times, the material definition is sometimes strange (ground in the last two screenshots is super reflective without water and is used on airship base, what is it exactly? ^^), the perspective seems sometimes confusing (desert scene, and the frontal one where I'm not too sure how big the ship is with those lights on the foreground).

It's nitpicking a bit, but that's the unfortunate rule of portfolio as people will focus more on the weaker links and remember that. You could also try to do some cool render using only the ship and the little guys such as this concept:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--J15meQAB--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/asavl6gfpkwjqc9pnnua.png

It adds to the presentation and gives a sense of scale without requiring massive work on the background. Simple but efficient! But overall good job on finishing the ship again, it pays off in the end.

NAIMA

Madwish said:

First of all congratulations on finishing the ship, it's been really cool following your progress.

I'm not an expert at precalculated render, so I probably won't be the best guy to offer constructive criticisms for you. I would say two things are a bit annoying though:

- The reflections look a bit weird. They're sometimes quite noisy and look "basic". The right part on the ship in the second screenshot especially.. I'm not sure which renderer you are using here and why that is, but I would expect something more refined.
- The ship and the little guys look really cool, and the idea of placing context is neat. Sometimes the background doesn't really work as well however, and it's a bit unfortunate. Portfolio are judged on the weakest link too, and in this case the environments are sometimes reducing the quality of your work on the ship. The 2D integration is not perfect all the times, the material definition is sometimes strange (ground in the last two screenshots is super reflective without water and is used on airship base, what is it exactly? ^^), the perspective seems sometimes confusing (desert scene, and the frontal one where I'm not too sure how big the ship is with those lights on the foreground).

It's nitpicking a bit, but that's the unfortunate rule of portfolio as people will focus more on the weaker links and remember that. You could also try to do some cool render using only the ship and the little guys such as this concept:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--J15meQAB--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/asavl6gfpkwjqc9pnnua.png

It adds to the presentation and gives a sense of scale without requiring massive work on the background. Simple but efficient! But overall good job on finishing the ship again, it pays off in the end.

Thanks for the comments, I am not good at rendering , actually it was my first time , I used Albedo , roughtness, normal map and the speculars I bet are just wrong . I used quixel to carve out the textures and sometimes I added some masks from it to add some extra dirt.

The backgrounds are all PS work , so there too I am not a matte painter expert .
the ground in last ones would have had to be a wet asphalt wich seems didn't work out well I guess. I also think that sometimes there are too many details may be .

the planet is done basically in photoshop , but I used several programs ot make the map from fractal terrain up to grand designer.
So to resume are all to be "hidden" and do something else as PF or something is salvageable ?

NAIMA

Here I did  a new render, I increased time and detail , and used a flat simple background .
How bout that?


Dunnowhy when I save from PS in Srgb the images when uploaded seems darker .

NAIMA

Comments ? ...

NAIMA

I am happy to say that the shp wo 1st place for Science category on the CG Society Spaceship Thrust competition ...

omar_0007

Awesome! I have yet to explore hard surface models/sculpts properly so this is inspiring! Congrats on the award!

Dethling

Congrats for the 1st place.
For the presentation I would go with a more the last version, so the background didn't distract from the model itself.
Maybe some nice close up shots of interesting areas as well as "normal only" and wireframe shots would be nice for a presentation.
What do you use for rendering?