Hard-surface smoothing - Help needed

KurtPoly

Hey guys. So I'm trying to improve in hard-surface modelling as I lack the skill. So right now, I've attempted to model a container and I've basically finished the model but now I'm onto the smoothing part which I just can't get right. Can you guys give me any tips on how to deal with this please ?



I'm starting with the roof, I'm trying to add edge-loops but because it's bevelled, the edge-loops doesn't stay near the edges

skyline5gtr

Im confused by what your asking . Are you asking how to make that object a high poly mesh ? The smoothing groups look correct to me 

KurtPoly

Yes skyline5gtr. Sorry if i wasn't clear enough. I've been trying to make it into a high poly mesh but i just cant seem to get the edge looping right  

For example, the edge loops on this doesn't stay near the edge because of the bevel

ComradeDispenser

unless you have a very big reason to why you would have the edge loops flush with the geometry, i'd say keep it as it is since it wont cause noticeable problems

KurtPoly

Alright and thank you for the help Just want to make sure i'm doing this right

jaker3278

This is as close as i could get mine in 3ds max. Just use swift loop and go close to the edge or use connect and use the loop tools to move them into place at the edge. 

commador

If you want them to be the same distance from the border edge, turn on edge snapping, select both loops, and with the scale tool (set to center) you drag them out until they touch the outer edges, then bring them back in. Be aware that this is kind of fiddly, and this is better suited to alternatives such as using quad chamfer.

EDIT: Since the perimeter is occluded by the frame, you don't necessarily need the sides. You can remove all the faces except the "top", select those edges, and just chamfer them. That will give you all the support you need for the corrugated shape.

KurtPoly

ahhh Thank you very much. That helped a lot :pleased:

Marshkin

This might help you. 
http://polycount.com/discussion/107196/youre-making-me-hard-making-sense-of-hard-edges-uvs-normal-maps-and-vertex-counts#latest

Macebo

jaker3278 said:

This is as close as i could get mine in 3ds max. Just use swift loop and go close to the edge or use connect and use the loop tools to move them into place at the edge. 

Like what Jaker said. But if you don't want the loops to be too close to each other, too tight, once you create a loop with swift loop, move the cursor near the new loop, hold down the alt + ctrl, left click, hold and drag the cursor. You'll notice the loop will follow the cursor, averaging it to the nearest edges. 

Subtle 1rony

There's lots of good information here on hardsurface and subdivision techniques: http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/SubdivisionSurfaceModeling

Zitch

You could also use the chamfer tool, depending on what you're wanting to do.

KurtPoly

Thank you so much for this. Really appreciate the helps guys. Helping me a lot here