Serbu/Remington 870 Super Shorty

Gazu

Hi people!

Because im tired of my AK-74 and im really not happy with the "Midpoly" i decided to left the AK for now and to start a project to fill my portfolio quick with a new model. Why i made it midpoly? Lol...i dont know....

Its a Serbu Remington 870 Super Shorty mainly inspired by Eric Radings work. Thanks for this
I already baked the hp weapon down to a 5,8k triangles lp:

Next step is texturing.
And because the weapon is a bit boring without attachements. I will make a Strap, a sight and a Ammo Holder.
As i said, mainly inspired by Erics work

Thanks and stay tuned,
Gazu


Edit² Final Renders:

Gazu

Here the LowPoly with Textures rendered in Unreal Engine 4. What would you say, how to improve the textures?
I think its not so easy to texture this Gun without attachements, because there are not many different Materials on the gun. So its heavy to make her look interesting.
The main problem is that the textures look different in Quixel then in Unreal.
First when import the Maps, the Weapon looks to Glossy. So i unchecked sRGB for the Roughnessmap.
After unchecking sRGB, the weapon looks more Rough then in Quixel Suite, even if i use the Epic Courtyard Lightning in Quixel.
So what do you think about the textures? Please give me your critic  
Thanks

Edit: Old Pictures, i deleted them.

Gazu

Rebaked the gun with some changes on the UVs and started with a new texturing process. Also added the welding seams with zbrush.
Still a lot of Masking Work.

Edit: I deleted this old picture.

Amsterdam Hilton Hotel

Looks really excellent... good bake, good materials and details... only crit I could really present is that the polygon density is a little inconsistent, for example the curve on the top of the receiver, compared to the trigger guard. Very good work.

Gazu

Thanks Bro, your words are motivating me and i will give more attention to the Poly Density next time.

ComradeDispenser

pretty nice textures, although you could have given the edge wear a yellowish tint to add some interest, the only problem I see is that it's too monochromatic at the moment.

Gazu

Hey Comrade, thanks for your answer. Yeah the weapon looks monochromatic because there are not much different materials on her. But yesterday i tweaked, tweaked and tweaked the Texture until i was happy. I added some slightly Color Variation to her and very fine rust on some small spots just to get away from this monochromatic look. I spend the whole evening to tweak the masks all by hand cuz i love it Please dont give attention to the Shell Eject, there are Parts which are not textured yet.

Still WIP:
Edit: Deleted old pictures.

Eddy Shin

you're one of my favorite artist GAZU!!!! i love this shotgun and the UMP is the best, keep up the good work so i can learn from it  

ComradeDispenser

ouch. now that i've noticed, there is no gap between the pistol grip and the upper receiver

Gazu

@ComradeDispenser Yeah, i will fake it with a normal panel and paint it dark
@Eddy Shin : Thank you but im still a nub and i must learn a lot

Gazu

Allright, i call this texture done:

Will start the Attachements next
Thanks!

Edit: Sorry the large images, i have downscaled them and saved them out as jpeg.

Gazu

Unreal Engine 4 Pictures:

cR45h

I would tone down the grungy stuff on the grip. It looks very similar to that on the metal and toning it down would increase the contrast between the two materials. Pretty cool work overall.

Gazu

cR45h said:

I would tone down the grungy stuff on the grip. It looks very similar to that on the metal and toning it down would increase the contrast between the two materials. Pretty cool work overall.

Thank you for your answer. I will try to convert what you said. But let me first make the Attachements
BTW: Nice Super-Shorty and Glock in your Folio!

Gazu

I made the HighPoly Ammoholder / Picatinny Rail for my Super Shorty:

And here the Bake:

Next thing is the Ammo, a Sight and maybe a Strap.

Eddy Shin

your bake look nice and clean as usual  

Gazu

Thanks Eddy Shin, small Update:

C86G

That indeed does make it so much more interesting. And I like this rendering way more than your finals (sorry for that). It just a persaonal taste, but your finals are to roughed up for me. The latest shots look beautiful. You may want to try a cleaner version for your final finals (just for me, of course!)

; )

aaronmwolford

The attachments are a great addition and helps enhance the interest of the piece. I second C86G. Your texture definition seems a little to similar. I would tone down some of the grunge on the grip. The bakes came out great. Nice work!

Gazu

Thanks Guys. I really appreciate your words. Yeah i like the new renderings also much more But they are without Maps (Only Normal) so i will see how to setup a nice scene at the end of the process. I think i will render it out in Unreal. But for now i have to make the sights and the strap.
Thanks,
Gazu

Gazu

Update, finished the Sights:

C86G

Is it just me or are the angles of the ris/picatinny parts a bit off?

( http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2010/09/st_railcrazy_200907-b.jpg )

Looking good, Gazu! Again, I like the rendering.

Gazu

Thanks Christian!
You little Fox you (>^-^)>
Maybe shes a bit off, maybe not, cause i worked the rail out of a side view reference. I doesn´t used a Frontview for the angles.
This is a great idea for next time, just to stay exact Thanks!

C86G

Haha, I bet only germans know the term "you fox" xD and people think you are totally crazy now xD

Gazu

Haha xD Not sure if americans are using "You little Fox" as something what is "good"
Im using it as "well meaned"  

Gazu

Hey Shini, i dont understand what you mean with Pass some of dem cage wires?

C86G

He wants to see the unsmoothed highpoly wireframe. He asks that in every thread. Don´t know why, but yeah : D

Gazu

Ah yeah, you´re right. I saw that in different Threads,too
Dont know if this will help you cause i worked both with Modo and Max for the HighPolys:

The Ammo and the Sights are Made only in Max. The Rail/Ammoholder and the Flashhider were quickly booled in Modo.
Really dont want to spend to much time with Shading Issues when making Holes in curvy geometry in Max.

Gazu

Thanks Shini.
Done with this Project:


Thanks for all the help, critique, comments and motivation!

r4ptur3

fantastic work, and nice in game shots!

Gazu

Thanks Dude ^^

Tobbo

This turned out great! Nice work!

aaronmwolford

Awesome work man! Those attachments turned this up a notch for sure. Beautiful in-game renders. 

Gazu

Dont want to bump anymore but just want to say thanks guys

Pedro Amorim

Why does the weapon look like it's made out of concrete?
You should for reals focus on some of the materials the weapon has atm and tone back the amount of damage it has.
It looks so out of place. The modeling seem neat, but all that over the top texturing makes it looks bad.
Get a couple of cool photos that have the type of materials you want for the gun, and a couple of cool photos that have the damage that you want and try to mimic those.
And no, even if your weapon is following some weird photo that you found.. no, just no. Get better ones. Part of texturing is having good taste, and knowing what looks cool. You gotta train that part sir.

Even if you think you are done with this piece I would totally go back and rework these textures. 
my 2 cents.

Gazu

Wow this is great critique. Thanks Pedro for crashing me down. I appreciate that cause its part of my learning process and critique hurts but it makes a artist better so thank you for this. Yeah i overtoned the damage on the weapon but i made this just to make the weapon more interesting for the players eyes. Actually i dont know why it looks like concrete because i choosed some metal smart material from the quixel library and painted my own masks. I will focus on my texturing skills and i will think about your words everytime i texture a prop now Thanks, Gazu