The Amazing Spider Gwen
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- UPDATE 7/16: Project Finished -
Greetings humans!
Starting a project thread for hopefully a quick turnaround on a new model. Tackling a cartoony, stylized Spider-Gwen on the recommendation of my significant other (she's super excited about Marvel's new wall-crawler). I could easily sculpt this girl out, but I really wanted to practice some further straight-modeling polygon flow and anatomy. I'm still getting a handle on sculpting in general, but it's always good to keep those traditional modeling skills up to par for re-topology tasks.
Not super concerned with geo optimization, but any feedback on poly flow and such is always welcome.
Greetings humans!
Starting a project thread for hopefully a quick turnaround on a new model. Tackling a cartoony, stylized Spider-Gwen on the recommendation of my significant other (she's super excited about Marvel's new wall-crawler). I could easily sculpt this girl out, but I really wanted to practice some further straight-modeling polygon flow and anatomy. I'm still getting a handle on sculpting in general, but it's always good to keep those traditional modeling skills up to par for re-topology tasks.
Not super concerned with geo optimization, but any feedback on poly flow and such is always welcome.
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Lastly, her anatomy is a bit extreme. I would make make her midsection a bit wider. Right now she has barbie proportions. One of your reference shots has a good depiction of what would make more sense anatomically (even though it is still a bit much still).
nickcomeau Called me out on not having more progress on the parts I was showing - the head was really only blocked-in, but I should have removed it.
I went over my topology a bit and did some clean-up work. The transition on the legs and butt needed some attention. I also re-constructed her chest as the separated breasts weren't needed when I'm aiming at Gwen's proportions from that center illustration. I really like that solid shape the artist used to define her bust. To answer your query Nick, the style I'm going for is more in-line with the far right model reference than the more anatomical one you're referring to (in fact I'm not sure why it's on the concept page other than that I like the style). But I will keep an eye on the joint systems when I rig. I think as long as they have enough well-placed geo, they should deform correctly.
Next up, connecting the hood, finishing off the hands, and getting her UV's busted out for texturing. Might make some tweaks to the head/eyes, but I need to see it with color on to really decide.
Finishing off Gwen's rigging here to get her out of a standard T-pose. Still have to to do a few texture passes to get her suit looking right, but that shouldn't take long. Haven't decided if I want to add a spec or anything else yet.
I do sincerely wish I knew a rigging expert (wizard) I could just hand my models off to. Dealing with 3DS Max Biped is convenient, but not ideal. It's also time consuming as hell and I only kinda know what I'm doing.
and just leave it as is? you crazy? all this work into it and to not do more maps would be such a waste of time on your part!
I have a another updating incoming, working on that shoulder area now. I believe some of the issues are coming from the rigging. I can trouble-shoot it a bit, but I'm definitely not a rigger, so my own inexperience may be foiling me. lol
THendersonVFX The rounded shape was intentional as I was emulating that center image from my reference board. I liked the simplicity of the shape, but perhaps it's not reading as well in 3D. I will play around with it and see if I can come up with something better.
Gwen here was a fun modeling experiment and it was a blast to really push stylized proportions toward the long and lean which I haven't done much before. Although her rig is kinda, sorta, super wonky, I feel like a learn a little bit more each time about weighting and effective topology for movement. I'll have to look into other tools that might speed up the process.
I'm also going to look into perhaps getting her printed in some fashion. I've never walked the 3D-to-fabrication path so I'm pretty curious as to what the results will be.
Love the exagerated proportion, only thing that bugged me a bit is how long her arms are.
Anyway, greatjob!
The long arms I really debated back and forth about. Her arm length likely changed about a dozen times, but...I settled on long to match her legs-for-days look. Those knees come up to her chin Bayonetta style - all she's missing is the massive heels.
I also wanted to see those exaggerated proportions animated, so I'm actually releasing the SDK file for this one since I already don't own the character. Hopefully someone can do something rad with her.
I'll post here and in the SDK master thread:
Spider-Gwen SDK
By: Brian Bedford (Rocket Brian)
Name: Spider-Gwen
Release: 2015-07-17
Texture: 2048x2048 diffue/spec maps (TGA)
Mesh: OBJ ~12,300 tris
well done
what do you mean you don't own the character? as in the concept? or did you use chunks of other pre made meshes?
Heh, sorry I should have clarified. I don't own the rights to the Spider-Gwen character so I couldn't sell the files or any printed versions of her, but the model is definitely all mine.
The lith round shapes seem lite hearted and youthful, and for me at least the elongated limbs reminds me of the whimsy of a Tim Burton character like Jack Slelington. all things that I feel fit the character and a tone I would certainly read or watch.
@Tristra
Thank you very much! that's definitely and interesting interpretation that hadn't occured to me, but I can definitely see it. This was a project from quite some time ago, but it's still neat to go back to older work to find new inspiration.
@loochmunz
Thanks mate! Gwen here was more of a modeling experiment than a true texturing exercise, but I did track down her original master PSD and was able to boil her texture flats down to this. Hope it helps!
@cassieluna
I apologize for the VERY late response, but you did remind me to go back and update the original SDK link. You should find the full zip file (with texture files) here.