Alex - SF 3rd Strike

Poly-Jon

Hay Guys ..
It`s had been ages since i posted anything so i thought i would post up my current WIP maybe get some feed back and try to finnish it



It`s still pretty ruff in places - pants boots some anatomy boo boo`s etc but i figured it would fire it up any way

Cheers

J

Ged

really good sculpt! much more realistic than the sprite but I guess thats the idea

JR

Really great! Always good to see some well made SF fanart.

SveinY

Great sculpt man!

SuperFranky

whats up with external obliques and serratus anterior ? i dont know what are you trying to do, but they just dont look like that

http://gabedavid.com/blog/wp-content/img_07711.jpg
http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/muscle-building-bodybuilding/1807d1282489708-guesing-game-natural-bodybuilder-francisco-montealegre-dscf0191.jpg

as i read somewhere, most of the time you can see either obliques ripped on a surface, or a serratus, not them together.

also: first pair of rectus abdominis muscles, origin of the muscle is on xiphoid process of the ribcage, yours look wrong and they manage to slide apart of main group and didnt stay in the same line

also: navel, i suspect it is too low

also: proportions: from the chin to the nipples is (although not 100% accurate) is a height of one heard, measure it

i am no expert, just a beginner in anatomy, so take my advice with a grain of salt if you want

TigerGD

Alex is a lot younger in SF3 than he appears in your sculpt, and he should probably have at least a little body fat for his age.

AdamRodgers

Looks very solid - nice sculpt - SuperFranky has some good points but I suspect your trying to edge your bets with this sculpt and give it a fair amount of universal pose-ability and maybe game use so its understandable that you've popped most of the important muscle groups, hat said Id say maybe take a look at your Latissimus Dorsi, maybe soften and blend it a little more and that would clear up a few issues - (edit - tried to find a reasonably similar arm pose to show the point)


That picky though and its a very nice bit of work.

nyx702

Very cool. Definitely following this. Loving his pants.

CaSToRx7

Amazing! one of my fav characters in sf!

Jigsaw

Sculpt looks great, though I agree that he does look pretty old. Perfectly fine if intentional, of course, but if you're looking to recreate the character from SF3 you could probably try to smooth out some of those lines in his face a bit.

Two other things that stand out to me:
1) His bandana could probably be a bit wider and/or sit a little lower. Looking at almost any official depiction of the character, his eyeballs just barely peek out from under the bandana which creates a really unique look. I think your model would feel more accurate if you got this detail just right (it would probably make him feel a little younger as well).
2) Even if you're going for a more realistically proportioned take on the character, I still feel you could make those deltoids a wee bit bigger and push the V-shape of his torso a little more. I think his build is missing a little something to make it feel really true to the character.

Nitpicking aside the sculpt looks fantastic. Love the overalls and boots, and his ponytail looks perfect.

Poly-Jon

Hi guy`s thanks for the comments i will take them all in to account altho i have been dumb an
in my haste to poste something in my spare 10 min`s at work i loaded a older ztool that i hadent fin sculpting around the torso hance the spazzy obliques etc i will post the latest version when i get a chance where i addresed this altho thair has been some things i hadent noticed a fresh pare of artist`s eye`s is always good.

Ged - jramauri - SveinY - nyx702 - CaSToRx7 - Thanks alot guys


SuperFranky :- you are completley right tbh in my haste in posting while i have a spare 10 min`s at work i loaded up a older ztool where i hadent finnished sculping around the obliques altho i cant belive i diddent notice when i took the screen grabs . altho i will look at the proportains of the chin to nipples thanks.

TigerGD :- Cheers i actualy wanted to do a older version of Alex am not so keep on his super young pretty boy looks and wanted to take him past that altho the lack of fat was at 1st a style choice to go more of thew capcom super chiseled look altho as i have gone on i seem to have steped away from that
and will need ot go over it and make it moer uniform style wise.

AdamRodgers :- Cheers thansk for that hopefuly it will be more addresed when i post my latest sculpt shots.

Jigsaw :- Yea adding on a few years to him was intenctional as for the Bandana I compleatley agree it is litrley a cube i have thrown in place for now that i will address when i come to adressing the hair too as for the D3eltoids and the Vshape i think you could be right i was thinking of brininging in his waist a little too to got for that SF shape

Thanks again guys realy helpful stuff i will try to post my latest shot`s ( ill pay a little more attenction this time when i do ) an hopefuly i will of addressed alot of the mistakes with the model so i can then refine it and get it ready for a lower poly game version

Cheers

J

YoutLeaderVal

About the face, besides that it looks old, it doesn't really look like Alex to me.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np2/char1/alex-3rd.jpg

I think Alex looks more like Layne Staley.

http://static.respectance.com/m1/photos/2li860pd499brr_f.jpg
http://www.fanoos.com/ia/layne_staley.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--IvYkLeBPBw/T9yRNLMyA7I/AAAAAAAAQKQ/tJyTZn2KrAs/s1600/Layne%2BStaley.jpg
http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/145/7bd472c3808442e696853a553e10fc34/l.jpg

I can almost see the bandanna already.

TigerGD

How about Matthias Hues?

JacqueChoi

I really like your work.


As some mentioned before, your Lats/Obliques area looks a bit strange.



But your sculpt cloth sculpting is great as usual!



^_^

Poly-Jon

Finaly got to do a quick screen grab this morning so here it is thair are still problems with it but am lucky if i get more that 30 min`s at it every couple of day`s project am on has steped up for a while ah well no rush i guess
Here`s the pic

quickley painted a mask on in Zbrush to see him with his war paint on
but no am thinking he looks like a Pumped up Alice Cooper ? :P

as for the face maybe it`s a bit old and i could do with a revision as thairs a few things am not happy with anyway lips etc but ill keep haveing a stab at it when i get a chance hopefuly things will die down abit at work soon

Again thanks for the feedback realy useful stuff.

Cheers

SuperFranky

That is a good improvement, good job. But dont you think the model would look better without those overdeveloped serratus anterior muscles? Maybe he will look better without them showing too much, maybe put some more emphasize on the external oblique

something like that:

Poly-Jon

SuperFranky :- cheers ill take a look when am next working on him although i did tone them down a little last but still need some more work

here`s a few close up`s to relay show my mistakes lol


I also did a very quick paint over to see a very ruff colour one


Cheers again

SuperFranky

your serratus anterior... there are just too many visible "fingers", if you know what i mean, there should be 4 max, because everything else is hidden below latissimus dorsi

and in your sculpt they reside too low on the body, but they should be no lower than an 8 rib

other thing: there is no visible difference among rectus abdominis and xiphoid process, you made it look like a single mass

Poly-Jon

I figured it was time for a update.
Figured i would give him some one to play with
as he looked a little sad ..











Ryu is still at a pretty ruff stage etc and very badly posed with out refining the pose after a quick transpose in Zeddy.

It`s to depict the Grudge match between these two as it was meant to be Alex as the main character in SF3
but due to popular demand Ryu was back to retain the crown.

as always please crit away and i will continue to endeavor wit hall the anatomy fixes etc .. one day i will Finnish this piece .. maybe :P

and one more before some one else get`s their

Poly-Jon

I have just done a quick Turntable of it and slapped it up on Vimeo
see what you think
https://vimeo.com/49908720

Cheers

Eoq

I'm diggin' it! : )

OrganizedChaos

Haha, great idea adding Ryu XD this is looking great, are you going to take it to a final low poly model?

Jigsaw

Argh, had a long reply typed out only to have the forum eat it.
Can't be arsed to type it all out again so here's the short version:

Ryu looks pretty good so far, but it bothers me how caucasian he looks. I think you got the major shapes of his face mostly right, but he still needs a bit of tweaking IMO. Ryu's gloves look completely useless - the protective padding needs to cover his knuckles. His hair needs to be a bit messier too, I think. It's a bit too milquetoast for a badass karate hobo right now.

That's the gist of my crits. There are some details holding your Ryu back but you're off to a great start for sure. I think you nailed his physique, and I like what you're doing with his outfit.

Looking forward to future updates!

Poly-Jon

Eoq - cheers dude

OrganizedChaos - thanks man yea eventual I'll do a lowpoly but am waaaay off from that at the moment

Jigsaw - cheers for makeing the offort to feedback twice dude I know what you mean wih Ryu's face altho he's always looked very European . The gloves are just quick base on a ryu pic I was looking at when I blocked em out but I intend to cover the knuckles similar to Alex's gloves .the hair is very much a place holder as I still have much to do such as the pants
Cheers again for the feedback