Verm: The Gulf of Tonkin incident that provoked involvement in Vietnam was a lie and a deliberate cover-up. The war was not officially declared. We withdrew from the area before the end and it's considered a loss. Your view of "we killed more of them and quickly" scares me. Some wars will not be won with force. There's the…
It's just bothers me that you think we'll win any conflict simply because we're the US of A. If Americans carry that attitude, it's about time we lost a war...and much of our arrogance. Am I right in assuming you believe there will be an end to the war, and one side will be a clear winner? The way I see it, this has been…
[ QUOTE ] It's just bothers me that you think we'll win any conflict simply because we're the US of A. If Americans carry that attitude, it's about time we lost a war...and much of our arrogance. [/ QUOTE ] Well, there's no problem then, because I don't think that! There's nothing magical about the stars and stripes that…
War sucks, and thats about the gist of it. No ones ever going to win, and it'll never stop. Unfortunately, I'll have to bear with it and hope that we don't end up blowing up earth. (Or any other body in the solar system, for that matter)
Im surprised no one has brought up the cost. Sure as Verm states we can take them out. But in the long run who is spending the greater amount to "win"? We may win wars on the battlefield. We sure don't seem to with the bottom line.
[ QUOTE ] Vermillion, I didn't say that victory wouldn't be possible altogether. I said that if we did it alone, it would be. Our armed forces are too damn tired, worn too thin and have low moral. Iran's military is fresh, eager and proud. If we went into another war without the aid of larger nations, we would lose -…