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Re: Occupy Wall St
Sorry, let me clarify that with "desire to profit". Which is just greed I guess, So i'll give you that. However, your definition above is basically the same as the webster's definition, so we agree there. "Abuse of workforce is not exclusive to capitalism" Example? China? Russia? There are far greater examples of abuse in… -
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So this includes a lot. It includes people, for example, since labor is a means of production. It includes all resources. If everyone is "owned" by the collective, then there are no labor markets. If all resources are owned by the collective then there are no commodity markets. It is not exactly a trivial difference. I… -
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I'll make this paragraph as clear as I can so that there can be no misunderstanding: It is my opinion that capitalism is a system that is, as it exists, modeled for the sole benefit of an owner/employer to leverage the labor of the lower classes and take the excess value from production (or just take away part of the value… -
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To be fair, the post you quoted I had Somalia in there as proof libertarianism doesn't work, but I took it out so as not to derail the thread with you again. :-D I can't point to a single system where "socialism" was tried at all. Communism is not socialism. I know this is skirting dangerously close to a "no true scotsman"… -
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I thought you said you were doing all sorts of stuff to help support the OWS movement? You can't even give us one practical example of how someone, without donating their money or physical presence to the protests, can help reach out to the uniformed? I mean off the top of my head I gave an example, surely you can think of… -
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"Profit is not exclusive to capitalism" Explain please. "Greed is not exclusive to capitalism" Perhaps not, but it is power and power corrupts, which leads people to be greedy. "Abuse of workforce is not exclusive to capitalism" Example? Profit is quite simply the excess money gained beyond the costs of labor, materials,… -
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@Alberto Atheism is not a belief system. It is a lack of belief. Calling Atheism a religion is like calling not collecting stamps a hobby. The fact that you think that's what it is makes clear you just don't understand anything I'm saying. You've chosen your economic god and I realize you will not entertain any other… -
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I didn't say the law was invalid, you are the only one making that claim. I said it was unethical what they are doing and therefore he didn't have any business making snarky remarks about the people trying to close their accounts being the ones in the wrong. Your example A is actually the point I was trying to make. I… -
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I personally know an awful lot of game devs that have made a large amount of money from selling their games (most of them have not retired, because they like making games). If you look around you will see there are a lot of options out there. If you don't like the existing options, make a new one. That is what capitalism… -
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That's a moot point because the currency already existed long before Kennedy took office and was already on its way out as congress had repealed the Silver Purchase Act (which basically allowed the currency to exist) before Kennedy made his executive order to shift authorization away from the presidency to the Treasury.…
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