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Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
I actually think there might be several companies exploring and presenting different approaches to rendering at GDC. (such as this point-cloud solution) Ever since the the expansion of multi-core processors, the coding jedis have been exploring different avenues for handling 3D graphics. The current polygon approach is a… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
Richard, it's certainly an interesting angle, but processors would have to be much faster than the currect average processor. Right now in games people are used to doing all the rendering on the GPU, and the rest of the stuff on the CPU. The demos that currently exist pushing software only solutions are somewhat… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
Isn't a polygon at its simplest form a triangle which is composed of only 3 verts which can be any length apart from each other, even near overlapping? And isn't a point an infinitely small thing as to have no dimension itself whatsoever? So to be drawn a point must in fact become at least the simplest form of a polygon… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
oh boo! I didnt come up with the company name, I am just an employee.. But there is a difference between using it in a name metaphorically, and actually using it as a part of the sales pitch :P -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
I personally do not care how bad something looked in quality for it being a demo. Anything that is mentioned about removing polygons as a possibility, or a thing to come is welcome to my eyes and ears any day. :) You're all too negative and hard pressed to see only the bad in things... -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
ZD: any polygonal model or sculpt can be converted into point cloud, so creating it isn't really an issue; as for working with it, yes, I think it would require a new toolsettraditional rigging and animation programs certainly won't work on my computer if I tried to animate something of unscaling billion-poly density.… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
Like others have said, it's interesting in theory, but this is definitely not an even-handed or straightforward pitch. The camera never stops moving in their shots (or even moves slowly) and never really zooms in on any particular detail. They do hardly anything to show the advantages that additional modeled geometry might… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
I remember hearing Carmack's thoughts on octree voxel stuff a year or two ago, always thought it sounded neat. The "compare" video on the UnlimitedDetail site is a lot less condescending, though the narrator remains pompous - it's very internet-y, like he's making a thread on SomethingAwful or imitating Yahtzee. I'm just… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
Exactly, the theory behind voxels are being used all the time, so its not that we're a big bunch of witchburners when it comes to voxels, its just that polygons works for every case. And in the case of not using procedural stuff and doing everything by hand, slowly, that's how it has to be done, in the cases where we… -
Re: unlimited detail ? no more polygons...
Even if he says that his "awesome" engine can occlude every point behind the points rendered on screen... keeping track of ( he did say trillions right?) points and running trigonometrics on them to map where those are... sounds like too much computing power is needed for that in order to run properly. And even if those…
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