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Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
No problem! Dithering is well explained in this stickied thread: http://polycount.com/discussion/148303/of-bit-depths-banding-and-normal-maps Basically it adds a bit of noise as you convert a texture from 16 bits to 8 bits. This can be beneficial because when that rounding I mentioned happens, you can end up with pixels… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
Good questions! 1) You don't have to use a cage when using match by name (it is basically making one for you based off those ray distance values), but I have experienced cage bakes looking slightly better. 2) That would be very surprising if true but I can't speak to that. 3) No, but more geometry means you can get the low… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
Heya EQ ! Of course, there are indeed circumstances where one might want to "harden all UV edges" - it depends on the kind of asset. And of course not every asset can be made with everything soft - it depends. My point is that there is a popular misconception floating around that tends to make artists believe that they… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
@pior NOW I understand. And this time I don't "think" I do, I know I do :wink: . You're saying there are certain situations that are exceptions to the separate smoothing groups for UV islands "rule". I now know to put "rule" in quotes thanks to you guys. I went and baked the same object I originally posted in MT3 rather… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
While this is focused on Toolbag 3's baker, the following tutorial covers all of your issues and then some: https://www.marmoset.co/posts/toolbag-baking-tutorial/ Check out the Basics and Best Results sections. "I never said that it is "pointless to worry about smoothing groups", quite the contrary. What I am saying is… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
Thank you a TON @somedoggy So essentially, seams exist because of truncated information? Interesting... Now for new questions :smile: I have heard about the bit depth problem with normal mapping before, and have read that something called 'dithering' is the solution. What exactly is that if you don't mind me asking, and… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
A bit of ye ol' history: The demonification of the hard edge dates back to the dark ages of poor baking software and worse baking workflows. Basically, before we collectively figured out how this whole baking thing works. In the old days, baking software didn't have an option to bake with an averaged or smoothed cage (I… -
Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
Hi all! The topic of normal maps seems (pun intended) to come up a lot here, so please excuse me for posting on it again. I recently became a 3D game art student, and I'm mostly self taught at this point. I gave myself the challenge of once and for all figuring out the normal map and AO baking workflow. I'd like to think… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
"I make sure there are separate smoothing groups assigned to each UV island" You absolutely do not need to do that, at all. Some people do it because their assets or art style just happens to be visually compatible with this brute force approach, but this is absolutely not a necessary condition. By doing so, you simply run… -
Re: Getting Confused with Normal Mapping [Solved]
I haven't read the whole thread thoroughly but I ran a find for "dilation" and "padding" and didn't see anything. Are you telling your baker to pad out your textures? Your latest image looks like a bit of the black background in the render is leaking through. Other than that, listen to Pior, dude knows what he's talking…
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