I'm not too sure what you're using for your roughness but try mixing up your details in that roughness map. I like to start with working on the overall roughness or larger details first. Normally I work with one of the Clouds nodes, maybe a Grunge or a combination of both blended together to my liking and add a Blur node…
Great idea, thanks. Agree I need to evaluate the roughness at a more general layer, I do have a lot of things going on with the roughness but clearly am not making the most of it. I find it a bit confusing how the roughness/lighting acts differently in Designer and Toolbag but you've given me an idea, I'm going to take out…