Dang, I knew someone would beat me to it eventually...
Ok, I'm fully aware this is WIP but here is my 2 cents
Here be some mighty fine reference:
I'd work at the boots more, Revans boots felt more like sci-fi boot/shoe hybrid to me, I think it's because they get finer and lower towards the front.
The Metallic forearm bracer also completely envelopes his arm rather than the outer side.
His cloak also seems more like it's wrapping around small shoulder pads rather than hangin naturally. The part that are segments on his chest also look more like thick black padding.
I'd also suggest tweaking the way his trousers crease around the top of his boots by either bulging the volume outwards or making them appear to be tight against the legs and tucked beneath the boots. At the moment the only thing that really suggests the break between trouser and boot is the trim which doesn't tend to fit star wars costumes. They often tend to be thin leather but as Revan's appear to be metallic...
I think in general my critique would be that your high-poly tends to lack the volume that is suggested in the old diffuse version.
The layering in your sculpt's armour is also very sharp and jagged, personally I'd have modelled his chest armour and mask as sub-d.
Oooo and don't forget his silly pinky purple cardboard piece! :P ( I know you won't)
The proportions and volume feel good already. You definitely need to work more on the cloth and sharpen up those folds, get some really nice crisp shapes there. Also the boots need a lot of work, they look like plasticine clogs at the moment.
Right now I would not say you're "almost done" with the high poly, I think this is a good point to be at but you can really push this further in terms of refinement and detail, and it can be a really great piece.
yeah i went for dinner, came back and said "yeah i can do more" haha
i'm trying to play around with new techniques when it comes to the folds, do you tend to use masks to help sculpt them? or just let it flow naturally?
@ razor: yeah, there's a couple of artistic changes i've decided to make, based both on the original art, and the various fan art that's floating all over the place. eventually i'll probably pose him with both single, and dual weilded stances, as the wiki says he did both and in the second game you fight him dual wielding.
the wristguards i've gone for a single plate to emphesize the gloves, partly because i think it'll make the plates more impactful visually (breaking up surfaces), and partly because i think having a metal plate wrap completely around your wrist is both uncomfortable, and unhelpful :P
the cloak i guess could go either way, from one side yeah it looks like it's going over armour plating on his shoulders, and from another side it looks like the modeler at bioware made it that way to fit the visual style and/or their modeling protocals at the time.
This is looking nice! I like the little rectangular details in the cloth for the center piece, but not so much with the larger piece that hangs down around his waist. I think it might look better if you just went with more basic cloth style for this area.
Really cool update though!
hey brad, thanks!
i've found his robes to look a little busy, i still want the crimpled look they have in the game screenshot, but obviously they just textured that onto a flat plane. trying to achieve that in 3d isn't easy! but i've gotten it to a point i'm happy with i'll be redoing his back cloak later.
yeah i think the AO bake isn't helping on the cloth either. i'm getting much closer to the final result i'm after, mixing colours into the specular is giving me some really nice results!
the final render will most likely be done in unreal engine, so i do have a quick question: the specular colour channel is where i'll be slotting the current spec map. but can i use the "specular" channel, as a gloss input? i feel i've gotten some good results in the spec already, and that the materials look suitably different from each other. but i'm trying to think of ways to push that result.
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Pretty nice model besides!
Ok, I'm fully aware this is WIP but here is my 2 cents
Here be some mighty fine reference:
I'd work at the boots more, Revans boots felt more like sci-fi boot/shoe hybrid to me, I think it's because they get finer and lower towards the front.
The Metallic forearm bracer also completely envelopes his arm rather than the outer side.
His cloak also seems more like it's wrapping around small shoulder pads rather than hangin naturally. The part that are segments on his chest also look more like thick black padding.
I'd also suggest tweaking the way his trousers crease around the top of his boots by either bulging the volume outwards or making them appear to be tight against the legs and tucked beneath the boots. At the moment the only thing that really suggests the break between trouser and boot is the trim which doesn't tend to fit star wars costumes. They often tend to be thin leather but as Revan's appear to be metallic...
I think in general my critique would be that your high-poly tends to lack the volume that is suggested in the old diffuse version.
The layering in your sculpt's armour is also very sharp and jagged, personally I'd have modelled his chest armour and mask as sub-d.
Oooo and don't forget his silly pinky purple cardboard piece! :P ( I know you won't)
Keep crackin at it, I wanna see the end result
The proportions and volume feel good already. You definitely need to work more on the cloth and sharpen up those folds, get some really nice crisp shapes there. Also the boots need a lot of work, they look like plasticine clogs at the moment.
Right now I would not say you're "almost done" with the high poly, I think this is a good point to be at but you can really push this further in terms of refinement and detail, and it can be a really great piece.
i'm trying to play around with new techniques when it comes to the folds, do you tend to use masks to help sculpt them? or just let it flow naturally?
@ razor: yeah, there's a couple of artistic changes i've decided to make, based both on the original art, and the various fan art that's floating all over the place. eventually i'll probably pose him with both single, and dual weilded stances, as the wiki says he did both and in the second game you fight him dual wielding.
the wristguards i've gone for a single plate to emphesize the gloves, partly because i think it'll make the plates more impactful visually (breaking up surfaces), and partly because i think having a metal plate wrap completely around your wrist is both uncomfortable, and unhelpful :P
the cloak i guess could go either way, from one side yeah it looks like it's going over armour plating on his shoulders, and from another side it looks like the modeler at bioware made it that way to fit the visual style and/or their modeling protocals at the time.
will post updates soon =]
update!
i think i'm gonna rework his back cape tomorrow =/
Really cool update though!
i've found his robes to look a little busy, i still want the crimpled look they have in the game screenshot, but obviously they just textured that onto a flat plane. trying to achieve that in 3d isn't easy! but i've gotten it to a point i'm happy with
here's the low poly
Can u give mesh without unnecessary triangles? Will be much more readable
and i optimise my low poly meshes in triangles... :S
otherwise nice lowpoly
wippity wip wip.
the final render will most likely be done in unreal engine, so i do have a quick question: the specular colour channel is where i'll be slotting the current spec map. but can i use the "specular" channel, as a gloss input? i feel i've gotten some good results in the spec already, and that the materials look suitably different from each other. but i'm trying to think of ways to push that result.
any suggestions?