ShaderMap = Crazybump competition

Junkie_XL · Feb 2009

Just thought I'd link everyone to this.
http://shadermap.renderingsystems.com/

MUCH cheaper. $19.95 for a commercial license vs $299 for Crazybump commercial.

Irreal · Feb 2009

Well, that looks like a buy to me. I miss crazybump though. We had some good times together.

ironbearxl · Feb 2009

Wow, that's pretty incredible for only 20 bucks!
I was thinking about buying a non-commercial copy of crazybump, but might have to check out shadermap instead.

EarthQuake · Feb 2009

Anyway, we've already got a thread for this.
http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?p=817621

AshleyTayles · Feb 2009

I have had this for a while. The support is amazing. If you report a bug on their forums, they will fix it and release an update within a week. Atleast, it's like that from my experience. I really recommend it!

Thewiruz · Feb 2009

im very happy with it!!

Junkie_XL · Feb 2009

EarthQuake wrote: »

IIRC the licensing has been changed around with crazybump, the $100 version being a *personal* copy, not a non-comercial copy. Also there is a student version for $60 for you cheap-o's as well. The $300 version as i understand it is for companies purchasing.

Anyway, we've already got a thread for this.
http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?p=817621

So if $100 is for a "personal commercial" license now...does $299 let you install on more than one seat?

Funky Bunnies · Feb 2009

not as far as it says on the site, junkie.

but it also still says non-commercial personal licenses on the site even though it may possibly be commercial too now? so it could just not have been updated, I guess

pior · Feb 2009

Wait, does this really work? I didn't manage to even convert a tangent space to AO (not to mention the viewport dropping every other triangle...)

Considered getting this,but eventually buying CrazyBump instead I think...

Junkie_XL · Feb 2009

oh...well...that sucks pior. Thanks for pointing that out. hmm...weird stuff.

EDIT: btw what is a DUDV map?

divi · Feb 2009

for AO from normals i found it to work best if i start with a height bias of 0 and a shadow of around 80.

really like the program so far

cheers

wailingmonkey · Feb 2009

pior,

dunno if it helps, but I was told you need to triangulate your model before it's
viewable as a 'custom model'
(they are evidently fixing this in future versions)

Junkie_XL,

think that's for stereoscopic stuff

diminished_Self · Feb 2009

this isnt perfect, but im very happy to see alternatives to crazy bump. especially in a reasonable price range.

i loved crazybump, but jesus fucking christ man its 300 bucks? fuck that. photoshop is 600. are you telling me that crazybump has half the functionality of photoshop? lat time i checked it was very good at what it did, but that still only a small fraction of what photoshop can do. not worth 300 bucks.

ScoobyDoofus · Feb 2009

Yeah, but the deal is that Adobe is going to sell a couple million copies of Photoshop. Ryan Clark might sell a couple hundred copies of Crazybump, if he's lucky. So, its not like he's robbing people to get rich. Its simple supply and demand. Low supply, low demand, high price.

Cybroxide · Feb 2009

All the texture artists in my studio use crazy bump. It's a really great tool.

ShaderMap looks cool, I'll definitely give it a try.

I'm not positive about this but I recall DU/DV maps being used for the refraction maps for water and stuff. Not entirely sure of this though. I've never actually used one.

diminished_Self · Feb 2009

ScoobyDoofus wrote: »

Yeah, but the deal is that Adobe is going to sell a couple million copies of Photoshop. Ryan Clark might sell a couple hundred copies of Crazybump, if he's lucky. So, its not like he's robbing people to get rich. Its simple supply and demand. Low supply, low demand, high price.

except that were talking about software, so infinite supply, low demand, and correct me if im wrong, but that particular combination normally equals out to low price.

dont get me wrong, i think its an awesome tool, extremely useful, and very well put together. i just dont think its fully half as useful as photoshop. and anything it can do can be done in PS, albeit a bit slower and not as easily, but it can be done.

**edit**

its a balancing act. price it high and you will get less sales, but make more money from each sale. price it low and you will get more sales, but less money from each sale. i personally think that its priced too high and hes locked a bunch of people out of the market.

kat · Feb 2009

Nice interface but it's not much more than a batch converter that does *simple* conversions of the different image types. CrazyBump on the other hand is much more of a creative tool; if you're just stuffing photos through either of them you'd never know anyway.. bleh. So in that context SM is $20 for a reason ;o)

Neox · Feb 2009

photoshop is 600

where?

pior · Feb 2009

and anything it can do can be done in PS, albeit a bit slower and not as easily, but it can be done.

Huh! Not really!

michi.be · Feb 2009

photoshop is 600

where?

Not in Germany. We pay around 1200€ for nothing except a localised UI.

I like Crazyump but its interface is horrible and looks like being made from an amateur.
maybe im to picky about this.

hyrumark · Feb 2009

diminished_Self wrote: »

i loved crazybump, but jesus fucking christ man its 300 bucks? fuck that. photoshop is 600. are you telling me that crazybump has half the functionality of photoshop? lat time i checked it was very good at what it did, but that still only a small fraction of what photoshop can do. not worth 300 bucks.

Crazybump is a boutique product though, aimed a tiny group of people, so the price has to reflect that it will NEVER, EVER get mainstream sales numbers like Photoshop. I bought Crazybump because I though it was worth the price, and has already saved me more than $300 worth of my time. And the fact that I got to use it for free through it's long beta phase.

I do despise the interface though, a generic windows classic style interface with generic sliders would be better. For some reason my mouse never wants to grab those sliders on the first try.

ShaderMap = Crazybump competition

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