xbox 360 VGA deal
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If anyone is looking for a vga cable for the xb360, Target has the Psyclone Essentials brand for $16. I had gone to Best Buy earlier and the official VGA is $59.99. This cable works great on my widescreen LCD at 1280x720 returning the other one to best Buy tomorrow.
If anyone is looking for a vga cable for the xb360, Target has the Psyclone Essentials brand for $16. I had gone to Best Buy earlier and the official VGA is $59.99. This cable works great on my widescreen LCD at 1280x720 returning the other one to best Buy tomorrow.
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bah, I just bought one for the higher price and the box is thrashed like hell, so I can't bring it back. Wonder if best buy would just accept me handing them the cable as a return XD
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yeah you don't need the box just the product and receipt. I worked there for close to 2 years. Just bring it on back before the 14 days or whatever it is.
vga is what computers used to use. the format is an analog signal while hdmi is a digital signal if I remember correctly.
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bah, I just bought one for the higher price and the box is thrashed like hell, so I can't bring it back. Wonder if best buy would just accept me handing them the cable as a return XD
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yeah you don't need the box just the product and receipt. I worked there for close to 2 years. Just bring it on back before the 14 days or whatever it is.
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sweet, thx for the info
the 360's gay VGA output doesn't work with my Sony TV.
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no? which model? works with mine fine.
I found that swapping PC and Consoles around on the Aquos here in the office makes it spin out a bit, but you just need to flip the analogue / digital settings one time and things come back to life.
TV model is KDS-50A2000
Its like saying oh no my diesel car doesnt drive with your gay petrol..
But whatever
My tv has HDMI, DVI, component, vga, and composite. It's great. It just doesn't support 1080p over anything but HDMI. It's pretty much how Windows Vista handles HD content as well. You need to have HDCP authorized hardware to play the full resolution HD content.
It just pisses me off that they've only released an HDMI cable for the Elite right now. It should have been released a long time ago, for the regular 360.
A lot of newer sets do not support the sync on green, as a form of copyright protection. MS dropped the ball. From the get go, they should have just released an HDMI cable. It's a 1080p all-digital signal got christ's sake. Give it an all-digital cable.
And yes, I've muffled with the console and TV settings. It's just not supported. I just use component and run it at 1080i for now. They're supposedly releasing HDMI for the regular 360. So that will be a happy day for me.
As to the VGA for the 360, I wouldn't have recommended it at first. However, one of the recent firmware updates for the 360 has corrected most of the problems with it, so its a viable option now. Especially seeing as most people have VGA capable computer screens, even if they don't have massive HD screens.
Providing a VGA cable makes high-end graphics available to anyone with a PC screen. A much better choice for pushing high-def graphics quickly and affordably. Give them a taste with the hardware they have, rather than push them to purchase much more expensive TVs. HDMI is usually available on high-end HiDef screens, and is only considered a standard feature on Sony screens. I'm sorry, I just can't fault them for this decision. It seems perfectly reasonable to me. HDMI wasn't important than, and it isn't important now.
Anyone know if a VGA cable could help this? Anyone have any experience with analog vs VGA?
I mean, it's pretty simple. Every single 1080p capable set supports 1080p via HDMI. Only about 70% of 1080p sets support 1080p via VGA. So MS chose to alienate 30% of their customers. That's pretty much bs if you ask me.
Striff, I have the 360 plugged into my benQ FP202W right now. The 360 doesn't support most 16x10 resolutions though. So I have to run it at 1280x1024 on a 1680x1050 native screen. It looks okay, but certainly not great. Lots of ailising.
I'm using the vga input as well.
No problems here.
Microsoft made its decision based on HD screen owners that already existed, rather than on HD owners in the future. From a sales and marketing perspective, this was a good decision. It wasn't a forward-thinking decision. But then Sony is showing us how forward-thinking decisions turn out in an active market. It's not always wise to cater to the cutting edge.
Look at it this way, "1080p" was one of the biggest sales words pushed around by MS when they released the HD-DVD add-on last year. I bought my TV shortly before then, thinking I was going to be ready for it. It said 1080p was going to be supported via VGA. I thought "cool, I got that". But there was NO MENTION of this synch on green issue, or what sets were compatible with it. It wasn't until well after I bought the HD-DVD player, that MS issued a statement on the matter.
On the Xbox forums, there was a list of the top 100 HD sets sold in the US. At least 35-40 of them were NOT compatible with 1080p over VGA. Yet low and behold, it was supported over HDMI. These were sets that have been out for over 2 years. That's a 35-40% margin. A majority owned the sets that DID work, but STILL - it's a complete ass move. They were already developing the cable for the elite model - yet they never gave one to those of us that needed it.
And their solution was to release a whole new console that had HDMI? That completely alienates those of us who bought the consoles prior to that. I'm not spending $400 when a $20 cable could fix it.
Seriously now, can you not understand why people are pissed?
We need HDMI, they say no. Then they release a new console that has HDMI. We ask for HDMI again, they say no. So people buy the new console for HDMI. And now, they're saying "yes", they'll sell original 360 owners a HDMI cable. So people have been rejected multiple times, ripped off, chains pulled. "Smart" move by Microsoft? I think it's completely retarded.
it does crash though, a lot.
I'm guessing it's just your telly. did you try running a pc at a high rez though vga on it?
I'm guessing it's just your telly. did you try running a pc at a high rez though vga on it?
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360 doesn't support 1680x1050 - so I can only run it at 1280x1024. On my TV, it will run at 1366x768 on VGA.
anything, to varify that your TV can handle more than 720p through the vga port?
my 360 goes up to 1920
Works:
- 1080i component
- 720p component
- 720p VGA (doesn't display full screen though)
- 1366x768 VGA
Doesn't work:
- 1080i VGA
- 1080p VGA
Honestly, I don't know why both Microsoft and Sony haven't released DVI cables for their systems. DVI has all the digital goodness of HDMI, while having all the PC-compatible benefits of VGA. DVI is an ideal compromise between the two cabling standards. And there are even a lot screens that support it already. (most screens capable of accepting a digital signal come with DVI ports standard)
My next step is to get the optical cable so I can connect the system to my surround sound
I can run 1080i via component with no problems. Just not 1080p. With 1080i, there's visual artifacts and screen tears, which doesn't happen with progressive. Not everyone's eyes can see them, but mine can. It's like setting a low refresh rate on a CRT monitor. There's a flickering that some people can see, and others can't.
I'm all up for a DVI input, though. That's maximum compatibility right there. My current PC monitor uses that as well.
My model of TV came out like 10months beforehand. That's ample time to have tested. Sure, I'll probably end up trading it in for an Elite. But people keep arguing the fact that Microsoft screwed up. Which they DID. Had I of known my TV was not compatible with 1080p over VGA, I would not have bought the HD-DVD player. Get it? I got boned out of $200. THAT is why I'm pissed. Sheesh.
I don't know. I think we are just beating a dead horse. I am about to get a big screen as well. I've been shopping for months and I'm looking at a 64" Samsung DLP 1080p.
I don't give a damn about hdmi though. I'm not about to spend 480 on an elite right now. I would rather just pick up a ps3 and have both consoles in my house.
I agree that both camps should release dvi cables though. That would make sense.
I agree that both camps should release dvi cables though. That would make sense.
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and miss out on the rights managed video?
1.) The xbox 360 was designed around Component video as this is what the majority of those with HDTV sets had.
2.) Component is a fine albeit analog signal.
The xbox 360 outputs Analog video. Its not like you can just release a cable for it (without doing some conversion voodoo which would degrade the picture.)
The elite console is the best thing Microsoft could do to remedy the situation, because you know they aren't going to accept 360s and replace the outputs.
Any DVI or HDMI cable for the original 360 is just going to upscale and convert to digital, thats not a real solution.