are you a swooper or a basher?

hawken · Nov 2006

Swooper:
You model swiftly and return to work in the details and get things perfect after building most if not all of your model very quickly.

Basher:
You work on your model methodically, securing each parts perfectness and then move on to the next part when it's done.

no middle ground, chose which one you are more like

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MoP · Nov 2006

i tend to quickly rough out a mass model, then focus on individual details, but i try not to ever spend loads of time on one area while everything else is unfinished - it's nicer to see the overall thing develop than have a finished head on an untouched body.

almighty_gir · Nov 2006

i agree with MoP. i'm definately a swooper.

Eric Chadwick · Nov 2006

Same here, similar to working in real-world media. Sketch first, refine as I go.

Whargoul · Nov 2006

Most of the time a swooper - but sometimes a basher (bash the head, swoop the rest - if the makes any sense

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Kevin Albers · Nov 2006

I generally prefer to get my swoop on, but do a bit of bashing for certain objects.

dejawolf · Nov 2006

i'd be a basher, turn up a very rough idea in my head, the meticolously work each part until the whole thing shines... or i simply just leave it be because i got tired.

Ryno · Nov 2006

For environment art, it is generally a very bad idea to bash. Since you are building entire worlds often times, if you start detailing from the outset, your level polygon counts can get pretty outrageous. You're better off roughing out large sections, then really examining where the detail work will pay off.

Even using modular approaches (which might seem like bashing), you should figure out the large volumes first to get the proportions down. After that you can work on modular detailed sections that will fit.

CheapAlert · Nov 2006

I've tried bashing. I couldn't concentrate well so swooping was natural for me

motives · Nov 2006

i swoop the swoop..

ryno pretty much summed it up perfectly

Neo_God · Nov 2006

The swoop method is much more of a fine art thing though. Because with almost all fine art you keep doing passes over the piece, refining it more with each pass. It often helps keep up consistency.

Joao Sapiro · Nov 2006

i kinda mix both , does that make me a freak

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gavku · Nov 2006

Definitely swoop. Much easier to get proportions right, as well as establishing the overall feel of the piece early on.

Mongrelman · Nov 2006

I bash most of the time. I find it easier to model in the details and extrude that geometry out, detailing as I go. I tend to find swooping annoying as adding loops sometimes messes up other areas which I was happy with.

Asherr · Nov 2006

bash, usually starting with the head and working my way down.

Psyk0 · Nov 2006

I used to fully bash but now slowly turning into a swoopa.

aesir · Nov 2006

bash. I can't make something and then leave it alone if its not right yet.

Joshua Stubbles · Nov 2006

Both.
It all depends on what I'm working on.
For a base environment layout, swoop it. But for a small prop, bash it.

CMB · Nov 2006

I'm a basher and I hate it.

EmAr · Nov 2006

Swooper here. I just can't imagine how details will work with the whole thing before I model a rough mesh and rotate it around a lot.

Blaizer · Nov 2006

sometimes i'm a swooper, sometimes a basher, it depends a lot of the project.

sledgy · Nov 2006

Swasher or Bwooper.

IronHawk · Nov 2006

Swooper here. I like to see how things are going to look and light before I detail.

Wells · Nov 2006

Basher.

I do everything once, perfectly.

everything

Entity · Nov 2006

Basher, I can't get my head around modeling big to small

Peris · Nov 2006

Definitely a swooper, it gives me something to go back to if the result is not working out as i want

Mark Dygert · Nov 2006

Swooper. If a deadline ends up being shortened it is better for me to have the entire thing up to 80% instead of the one tiny part at 100% and the rest at 50%. also if I need to make changes to some fundemental areas I haven't wasted time detailing them yet.

Rough, Rig, test, fix, detail, unwrap, test rig again, fix unwrap, texture.

kat · Nov 2006

[ QUOTE ]
Swasher or Bwooper.

[/ QUOTE ]hehe, yes. In the absense of copious amounts of artwork to look at, I've found it easier to bash a section of a level out so I can get a grip on the physicalities of a 'look' and then, swash; blockout, slight detail, blockout, slight detail, back to previous area and add a bit more detail. Rinse repeat.

Totally the wrong way to do things (so I'm told) but I'm a amateau not a pro so I can do things my way!! muhahaaaa (even if they turn out crap).

Using a 3D modelling app has changed that though, finding blocking out and then detailing much more useful.

Slipstream · Nov 2006

I'm a swooper primarily, but I do tend to bash at times. Eg. I'll start on the head and model that out totally, then block in the proportions for the rest of the body, connect them, and build up detail more or less uniformly.

Vailias · Nov 2006

I pre-swoop on paper then bash in 3d

killingpeople · Nov 2006

BASH!

are you a swooper or a basher?

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