Hsien-Ko (Q3A)

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

IT'S NOT A FRIGGIN GARGOYLE!!!! AND IT'S GOT TITS!!!! OMG MIELSTOEN!!!!!!!

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsienko2.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsienko.jpg

She'll be for q3a, gotta do something fancy for the gunarm though. Skin will have further polishing next and i gotta make that "paper" and hair mask (comes after since it's asymmetrical)

kdr go forth an rip me apart lol

flaagan · Mar 2006

Liking it so far cheapy! One of my favorite characters from Darkstalkers. Definitely need to work on the face, maybe try a less anime-ish style and more realistic look to the features (less Big Eyes Small Mouth and a more real-human look). I expect PROGRESS!

Isis' Minion · Mar 2006

Nice...maybe put the eyes a bit deeper into the head. And put that scroll thingie on her hat!

ironbearxl · Mar 2006

Awesome man! The mermaid guy you made before this one was great too. BTW, the faces of the ribbon and bottom half of the shirt look like they need to be flipped.

Rhinokey · Mar 2006

not only is it not a gaygoyle, and it has tits.. its also a decent model and texture, tho optimize the top of the hat, that many segments may be needed around the brims edge, but as the hat tapers at the top the polys are wasted,, so as the hat gets smaller instead of keeping the same poly flow, i would colapse like every other edge to cut back there

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

Thanks guys. The ribbon and stuff look like they needed to be flipped because I quickly duplicated/flipped the polys to show the two sides of the texture.

Also i've minorly fixed up her face, she doesn't look as "dumb" anymore

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsienko3.jpg

One of the things that bug me the most about the model is her back. I really couldn't figure how that ribbon was connected through the dress with the back flap and other stuff and there's hardly a ref picture of her back so it was just crappy guesswork, oh well

Makkon · Mar 2006

I'm liking the recent stuff you've been doing, cheap. Do some more!

Jerome · Mar 2006

can you model the nose or no?

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

what do you mean, the nose is there

One thing i'll be stuck on is her sister as a ward-paper stuck on the hat, since there's barely any reference or pictures of that

Zergxes · Mar 2006

Awesome. You should do Big-O next.

Isis' Minion · Mar 2006

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what do you mean, the nose is there

One thing i'll be stuck on is her sister as a ward-paper stuck on the hat, since there's barely any reference or pictures of that

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http://homepage3.nifty.com/ueyamam/imageM/tops/leilei.jpg
http://www.infosakyu.ne.jp/~samurai/leilei_20000.jpg
http://www.aoinanase.de/darkstalkers/darkstalkers-lei-lei.jpg

There you go

(googled for "leilei")

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

sexlent thanks

JKMakowka · Mar 2006

Great work cheapy

Only problem I can see is the too strongly visible mirrored texture on her 'lion-cloth'.

MoP · Mar 2006

Pretty good work, nice to see a non-gargoyle too.

Construction crits - the hat has far too many polys.
You really should have an extra edge cut at the back of the knee, right now that's gonna deform pretty weirdly.

Texture crits - Eh, do you have a graphics tablet? Or is this mouse work? It's all looking very dodge/burny and blurred. I'd be interested to see the flats because if that's a 512x512 on the body, it's being used really inefficiently. I'm pretty sure you could get exactly the same detail out of a 256x256 or even a 128x128.
The highlights are pretty much just a lighter version of the base colour and the shadows are just a darker version - this is not how light works, and it doesn't look right when painted in this way - colours should shift between shadow and highlight, colours bounce off each other... they don't just get lighter and darker and stay the same colour.

Anyway yeah nice to see you doing something like this, looks pretty good but as I say needs optimising work and either down-scale that texture to 256x256 (currently you're wasting texture memory) or add more detail so that it justifies the use of a 512x512. Likewise with the face.

EarthQuake · Mar 2006

LAWLS CHEAPY IS A REAL BOY NOW, LOOK AT THAT!

steady · Mar 2006

hhoooorraaay cheapalert

seantree · Mar 2006

awesome cheap!! The DS series kicks some major ass and this character is one of my faves. very good likeness

pior · Mar 2006

Hey!

I agree with what has just been said. Just wanted to add that I sincerely like the color palettes you are using on that. It's a tricky thing that can go wrong very easily, and it seems you made some wise preplanned decision to avoid that. Nice!

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

Thanks for the mad praise guys, that's the most i've gotten since I did Afrit some four years ago, however that was because mop uvd him. This is the kind of stuff I want that gives me motivation, and with that positive attitude brought to my stuff will encourage me to make more stuff and variation.

Anyway my skins do look the same downsampled down to half sizes (two 256x256's and a 128x128) and for now i'll prepare her in q3a. No problems exporting the triangles (the cloth thing is because i didn't seperate that into another material group yet, which i will do after rigging for the sake of vertex weighting.)
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsiq31.jpg
ouch, overexposure. Guess i'll darken her skin a bit later then as well as giving those baggy clothes sharp wrinkles and drapery. As for her head, since that's unaniamted, it can be polished and decorated later.

Also, her face appears very blurry at a distance, i wonder if a little bit of nomipmaps in the shader will fix that issue
EDIT: nevermind, inconsistent

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

Added some hair and that paper thing. She probably appears too bright and saturated still

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsiq35.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsiq36.jpg

Steakhouse · Mar 2006

I agree with your lighting assesment. Still on the whole she's looking pretty good. You've really got something here Cheap. Congrats.

rooster · Mar 2006

nice job cheap man! yeah its worked out well, just tweak the textures for the lighting and jobs a good 'un

KDR_11k · Mar 2006

While I have no idea who that is I'd say it looks good. But your highlights are very washed out, even without the overbrighting.

vahl · Mar 2006

yep she's too bright but looking cool cheapy
I like the saturated colors though, did you try adding a cell shader to her ? I guess that would make the model looking even better...

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

Almost finished animating her, managed to get her weapon on her back on taunt anim

I also tossed a tag_flag in there for the other hand, which is really meant for Team Arena player models but appears better when you've got a flag actually in the hand

and it actually works in stock q3a albeit missing a model (which teamarena has, probably a repositioned flag for tagged use)

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsiq311.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsiq312.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/hsiq313.jpg

and a fun rare moment while bot testing earlier

I just need to adjust the tag_head now and add a bit more shine on that paper. There's sounds as well though they somewhat lack variety (repeated pain and death sound from vampire savior atm)

EDIT: Colors and highlights changed again since this post.

Zcubed · Mar 2006

This is looking good, CheapAlert. It's always nice to see people get custom content in game. That tag hanging from her hat seems to be blocking her face, why not move it off to the side a bit? Can't wait to see this one in motion, nice work.

CheapAlert · Mar 2006

Call me hasty or premature, but i've polished it plenty to "release quality" and fixed some glaring animation/skin bugs, i've sent it to polycount. Happy with the result

only "problems" is the backpedal anim stuttering, but that's fitting for the whole hopping corpse zombie character.

Also did a bunch more recolors for ctf and other variety.
(Click for HUGE ASS PICTUER!)

Give it a whirl here

also an sdk if anyone wants to take a stab at a skin for her. Beware of the crap foot uvs!

oh and i tried for a bit of facial detail

Ninjas · Mar 2006

Nice job Cheapy. Looks good.

Hsien-Ko (Q3A)

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