unfold 3d magic
polycounter lvl 18
i saw it in action, and it's very awesome.
you import an obj. pick your seams, click unwrap, done.
http://www.polygonal-design.fr/e_unfold/manual2v4.php
you import an obj. pick your seams, click unwrap, done.
http://www.polygonal-design.fr/e_unfold/manual2v4.php
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anyway, Wings3D. hurray.
i wonder what happened to that
It was worth the 400 bux (we bought a copy)
But if you guys say that this is the best UV relaxer on the market, then I'm sure it is. The only problem is getting someone to buy you a copy.
Unless your company is paying the bill, four hundred bucks seems crazy for a simple Relax function. The less expensive version is just basic LSCM that you can find in most software these days.
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It is not basic LSCM, which is what I'm saying. If it were, it wouldn't solve the solutions the others couldn't. It starts with a version of Max's unwrap to make sure everything is non overlapping, and then it NEVER EVER EVER lets them overlap again no matter what. It must do something on top of the basic LSCM because it lays them out exactly how I would if I had all day to tweak a face. If you're being paid to UV wrap, you'd be waisting your employers money on higher poly objects NOT to buy this software, and if you aren't getting paid and are a hobbyist, there are not only cheaper version on the site (150 bux), but there is always limewire...
Also:
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wings sux a free cock allday and it learned it from your mom.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
For Heads i still find that using a cylindrical unwrap with a bit o tweaking gets to where I want pretty quick
Left is Unfold, Right is Wings. You can see under the nose and front of the chin the stretching is worse in wings version. The overall density is more even all over on the Unfold Magic version as well. This is one unfold iteration, and one relax stretch operation in each program. Also, I had to rotate wings version to be straight up and down, it didn't come that way. And the Unfold Magic was straight, and for whatever reason I rotated it in this image so it's off kilter.
Wings isn't awful by any means. If you are on a limited budget, or you already use it as your software of choice, go for it. But I still hold that UnfoldMagic is a superior product.
My question is why is it that the neck has so much more pixel density than the face? Thats no good...
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This is a pretty basic problem with UVmapping in general. You want seams in the most unimportant areas of the mesh, yet on the UVmap they'll be on the 'outside' therefore getting the most UV space. One solution is to make several cuts to break it up and allow them to be more their actual size, but in reality I find doing so doesn't save much space anyway, and you'd have a whole mess of seams to work arond.
Poop: If you say unfold3d does a better job, I'll take your word for it, but I don't think the interface should enter the discussion, since it's pure opinion. (Ie. I like it just fine). What I wanted to ask though, is what's up with the left sheet? It isn't symmetrical and has some strange artifacts around the mouth and eyes, not the best way to advertize if you ask me
Edit: Both sheets, actually, the right has the eye bit. Is the mesh not symmetrical?
So there you have it. You think Unfold3D is superior. I think Wings is. It is a matter of preference, and experience. But the real conflict is the fact some people don't have hundreds of dollars falling out of their rear ends. If price is the issue, I'd rather edit them myself. Good ol' planar and cylindrical map.
I clicked one button and it was done.
Doesn't get much easier than that.
Anyway both programs seem to have better autounwrap than maya for ORGANIC objects... how about an autounwrapper for hardsurface that keeps pixel ratios equal?
Also, I have both models in front of me, and there is far more stretching on the wings version, that's a fact not up to interpretation. And they are not pretty much the same at all. The key areas that are the most problematic were handled well in unfold magic, and were handled poorly in wings.
And about seams, when normal mapping, the fewer seams the better, which is why I kept the ears on the model. It works much better in the engine, as I've still yet to see an engine that handles normal map seams totally perfect.
Reguardless of your wallet size, UnfoldMagic is a superior product, period. I can understand if you don't think it's better *enough* to justify the purchase price. I probably wouldn't either if I were paying for it out of my own pocket. But rest assured it is in fact significantly superior in time taken to relax, ease of use (I didn't know either product when starting, and Unfold was way easier to learn to navigate and cut seams) and because I said so. 8-P
My one and only complaint is that after you have confirmed a cut in UnfoldMagic you have to live with it, or export it to max, weld, export back to get the seam rewelded. I've just learned to watch carefully before confirming a cut.
UnfoldMagic is what DeepUV always wishes it could be.
Just out of curiousity, why are you even bothering with standalone UV apps? Wasn't Max 8 all about UVs? I had heard that the new pelting and relax features inside the latest version of Max were top of the line.
No undoable seams? WTF?
wow, lame. people trying to cash in on not making UV mapping a skill you have to learn.
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By that logic, computer manufacturers are also lame for trying to cash in on not making paint mixing a skill you have to learn.
UV mapping is by far the most mundane part of CG. Hooray for automation.