Zelda vs the colossus
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Does anyone else think thatShadow of the Colossus look more like a dark and realistic Zelda game than the new Zelda does.
IMO the new Zelda game looks like a joke. Apparently not that many people liked the cell shaded wind waker...dont know why. That game looked amazing. But since everyone complained they decided to make the new one more realistic....... but it still looks cartoony. It still looks like a japanese styled game, just not cell shaded. It doesn't look dark or realistic imo.
Now look at Shadow of the Colossus. This game looks very realistic, and very dark. Not to mention that the main character looks a bit like Link, and horses seem to be a large part of both games.
I havn't played Twilight Princess yet, but i did get to see it up close (YAY Penny arcade expo and Nintendo's HUGE display there). And after playing the Shadow of the Colossus demo, i have to say that Shadow looks much much better.
So what do you guys think? Do you agree that Twilight princess looks like it's a step back artisticaly? Or do you say "What is this Colossus game, and why do i care?"
IMO the new Zelda game looks like a joke. Apparently not that many people liked the cell shaded wind waker...dont know why. That game looked amazing. But since everyone complained they decided to make the new one more realistic....... but it still looks cartoony. It still looks like a japanese styled game, just not cell shaded. It doesn't look dark or realistic imo.
Now look at Shadow of the Colossus. This game looks very realistic, and very dark. Not to mention that the main character looks a bit like Link, and horses seem to be a large part of both games.
I havn't played Twilight Princess yet, but i did get to see it up close (YAY Penny arcade expo and Nintendo's HUGE display there). And after playing the Shadow of the Colossus demo, i have to say that Shadow looks much much better.
So what do you guys think? Do you agree that Twilight princess looks like it's a step back artisticaly? Or do you say "What is this Colossus game, and why do i care?"
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I was hoping that they would make the sword play a little more realistic in its damage, by hacking off parts of your enemies etc.
As far as Zelda's art, I know that a lot of people really like the style and can't wait for the new Zelda game. Shadow of Collosus also looks great. What you've got to understand is that theres no single "correct" style for a game. They're all going to be different. Saying zelda should look like SoC just because you like the way it looks better is a bit naive. Nintendo chose their stylistic choice well in my opinion.
Of course i'm a huge fan of every zelda game (aside from the crazy ones on CDI because I was young and i can't find one now...) AND a fan of ICO.
Both will be amazing.
Aesir: Nintendo started caring about the US a year or two ago, as crazy as it sounds. Many of their decisions were very Japan-centric, they've made a few more US-centric decisions afterwards.
Man-o-mule: The fans wanted a style closer to Ocarina of Time, which was pretty much anime style.
I never owned a N64 and only played OoT when it was ported to Gamecube as the extra disc you got when you pre ordered windwaker. I thought it was decent, but i kept getting stuck. and eventually just stopped playing. Didn't really think the art style was that great, most 3D games on the PS1 and the N64 looked about the same imo. Just not enough processing power to pull off stylized 3D art.
And my Zelda fainboyness wore off after windwaker. While i loved the game and the art, there was just too much damn sailing about. I used to point the ship where i wanted it to go, head into the kitchen, make a sandwich, come back and be able to eat the sandwich before i got where i was going. Now they are adding a horse to the new game.....which seems too similar to the boat imo....yet another reason i'm not really excited about the new zelda.
I guess you could compare Ico to Zelda as well, but i was too busy yelling "DAMNIT!!! STOP CHASING THE BIRDS!!!" when i was playing it to think about it much.
And my god, i LOVE the animation in ico and in Shadow of the Colossus. Beautiful, and realistic. I love how you can actually trip over stuff, and the main character stumbles a bit.
is ico any good judged by todays standards? screenshots didn't look very promising and people complained about the battle system, so i never really investigated.
There is a lot of diffrences between the two games. Ico/SotC is a game more sutiable for adults than children(never mind the morbid, isolated feel of the game) while the zelda series can pull in a younger audience. The atmossphere is entirely diffrent between the two, for instance I don't think I'd ever feel joy while playing SotC. Plus how the game is played is diffrent with Ico/SotC's heros being much more frail than just about any incarnation of link(or good or bad thing depending on your stance) and having a much smaller selection of weapons and no magic at all. Half of the zelda experience is running around playing and meeting people. Link also does a lot more dungeon crawling, and has more backstory to draw from to create and populate the world you adventure in.
SotC and Zelda are in the same genera that's all. Riding around and shooting stuff is only a minor part of what makes zelda zelda. I played the demo for SotC and I can tell you it's a fun game and it's no threat to zelda for the forseeable future as far as I'm concerned.
Ico is one of the best PS2 games. Read some reviews for christ sake. It pops up as a 'best ever' game all the time. That being said, it is a puzzle platformer in the style of Out of this World. SUPRISE! It doesn't play like Devil May Cry. It is a puzzle game.
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What does Zelda and Shadow of the Colossus have to do with each other? They both have characters with pointy ears and horses! That is it!
I don't even know what you are talking about because it doesn't make sense. Oh, you're pissed because you wish that they named SotC Zelda instead? Because you think Sotc is ripping off Zelda? You're pissy because Zelda didn't have you as an art director? I don't get it? What is the connection between these two vastly different games?
When they could look at Shadow of the Colossus and get a game that has similar characters, but looks oh so much nicer imo.
and Ico rocked. One of the few games i own that i will NEVER consider trading in....and you can get it for about $15 now. and it does look amazing.
My experience with Zelda games was very close to yours in that I played the 8-bit zelda games and thought Wind Waker had a good realization of Link. I thought Zelda OoT sucked, and I couldn't get past the tedious open ended portion of Wind Waker.
The way I see it, Nintendo could have pulled another Mario 64, and make me wait 10 years for a true sequel, but instead they are taking another shot at the Zelda franchise. MAYBE they will get it perfect this time.
I'm sure I will end up buying both games, and I only buy about five games a year. I think SotC will be mind blowing, and I think Zelda could be great if the stars align, though to be honest I think the aspect of turning into a spirit wolf will, sadly, suck ass.