Thief 3: Great Game. Bad QA.
polycounter lvl 18
It had to be rushed out the door. I got a new copy with my 6800gt, and was playing through it. It kept crashing to a bsod in the same area. I thought it was the new card, and have been spending the last few days trying to figure out what was going on to discover finally that this game is full of these types of bugs-especially that become apparent with DX9 cards (because it would only sorta do it on a dx8 card). Serious bugs.
Did Eidos push Ion Storm (RIP) to get it done? I mean how could a QA person not manage to report these?
Did Eidos push Ion Storm (RIP) to get it done? I mean how could a QA person not manage to report these?
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Obviously you need to do the following:
Upgrade DX9, Update nvidia drivers and make sure the card runs other games and hope its not a hardware issue.
Its nearly impossible to test all PC hardware configs.
So stop QA bashing. I dont artist bash when i see shit textures.
dont stick it on QA
i can tell you from experience that more that likely that kind of thing WAS reported, and development just said 'whatever, ship it'
Oh and slayerjerman, drivers didn't do shit nor dx, nor even a new install of Windows. It's been discussed on the thief sites. Would you like me to send you the save to try yourself?
Looking Glass Studios was an artists studio.
Ion was am abitious, pretencious bunch with incredibly poor AI coders since their very first game (daikatana).
I am pretty sure it was rushed out since towards the end of the game they incroporated kind of in-game cinematics, extremely poorly rendered and with models my cripple grandma could do better. I have only bitterness towards this wretched company who took such a wonderful series of games and wracked it, ea fault's or not.
Ion was am abitious, pretencious bunch with incredibly poor AI coders since their very first game (daikatana).
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That's Ion Storm Dallas, and they died out in 2002. Don't confuse it with Ion Storm Austin, who also did Deus Ex which was an excellent game (around DK's release).
Ion was am abitious, pretencious bunch with incredibly poor AI coders since their very first game (daikatana).
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And you still think it's cool to broadcast your contempt for a game that came out years ago, never fucked your sister or foreclosed on your family farm. Who's worse?
well whatever, yea. It was a shameful game.
They missed the entire purpos and idea behind thief which was this sick world Looking Glass came up with, and most artistically put together into thief 1 and 2 games.
That's how I feel about it: they fucked it up, and more than once.
Dues ex too, imo, had a most horrible AI which made the game ridiculous. No matter how complicated the techniques and methods the game lets you preform a certain task, if the computer acts like a jerk, it makes everything seem ridiculous. Like, why bother? they end up running into walls anyways.
When I say pretencious it's because Warren Spector made some pretty damn pretencious design calls on thief 3, looking - as always - to reinvent the game. Especially when working in a budgeted time-limited frame, his kind of design choices eventually end up falling short, I feel, from his original ideas.
I feel, from his original ideas.
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at least he is trying somehing different i suppose, makes a change if only he had some good time to playwith and wasnt rushed.
Jody
your title very much sounded like QA bashing. Sorry.
I just hope they code back in proper rope-arrows