Reference Pack - Liebherr R9800 (150+ images)

MiningSpecs · Jun 29 2026

Hi everyone!

I'm working on a reference pack for the Liebherr R9800 mining excavator. It includes 150+ images organized in folders: exterior, engine, cabin, undercarriage.

The idea is to save hours of research for 3D artists working on heavy machinery projects.

Price: $49.99 (Personal License) – Commercial License available.

Direct link: https://miningspecs.gumroad.com/l/ataqw

Attached some samples. Feedback welcome!

Eric Chadwick · Jun 29 2026

First off, there's no pricing nor details on your Gumroad, so it's impossible to understand what you're offering.

Secondly, this is extremely specific, so it's probably unlikely to give you much return on your time investment.

Third, your post signature is very large, which is kind of annoying. I'd recommend keeping it to two or three lines.

MiningSpecs · Jul 1 2026

Eric Chadwick said:

First off, there's no pricing nor details on your Gumroad, so it's impossible to understand what you're offering.

Secondly, this is extremely specific, so it's probably unlikely to give you much return on your time investment.

Third, your post signature is very large, which is kind of annoying. I'd recommend keeping it to two or three lines.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll update the Gumroad page with more details and pricing, and I'll shorten my signature.

I know it's a specific niche, but I've found there's demand for organized references of heavy machinery. I appreciate the input.

poopipe · Jul 2 2026

Assuming this has really good pictures and a commercial licence cost something like a day's pay for a senior artist you could make a decent business case if you were building something that needed a load of heavy machinery looking models.

Good luck with it

MiningSpecs · Jul 3 2026

Thanks for the thoughtful feedback — I really appreciate it. That’s exactly the kind of perspective I was hoping to get.

I’ll admit, some angles were harder to find than others (especially around the cabin and undercarriage), and a few images are not as sharp as I’d like — but I made sure to include everything that could be useful for modeling and texturing.

Also, I'm already working on a more detailed reference pack for the Caterpillar 797F. That one will go deeper into the mechanical side and cover more of those tricky spots that were harder to document on the R9800.

If you end up checking the R9800 pack, I’d really appreciate any thoughts on what could be improved.

Direct link: https://miningspecs.gumroad.com/l/sgfgd

FrankPolygon · Jul 3 2026

Really great photography. Most reference photographers also include a thumbnail gallery to show what's in the pack.

Would it be possible to get the raw files or at least the camera meta data for camera matching calibration? Knowing the sensor size and focal length for each photo is really helpful for setting up the camera calibrations for precision vehicle modeling. Having quality photos taken with the same lens and camera setup, along with the meta data, is a big advantage over just scraping stuff off the net.

Without those kinds of value adds it may be difficult to justify the cost Vs a quick image search and visit to the company's product page for the official line drawings and equipment specs.

Thanez · Jul 3 2026

MiningSpecs said:

I’ll admit, some angles were harder to find than others (especially around the cabin and undercarriage), and a few images are not as sharp as I’d like — but I made sure to include everything that could be useful for modeling and texturing.

Also, I'm already working on a more detailed reference pack for the Caterpillar 797F. That one will go deeper into the mechanical side and cover more of those tricky spots that were harder to document on the R9800.

If you end up checking the R9800 pack, I’d really appreciate any thoughts on what could be improved.

Direct link: https://miningspecs.gumroad.com/l/sgfgd

MiningSpecs said:

Complete visual reference pack for the Liebherr R9800 mining excavator.
What you get:
- 150+ reference images (screenshots and captured frames)
- Hard-to-find angles of undercarriage, tracks, arm, boom, cab interior, engine bay, and hydraulic components
- Technical diagrams (hydraulic systems, backhoe attachment, digging envelope)
- Detailed dimensions and specifications (A1, A2, A3... OEL)
- Engine and hydraulic system data (Cummins QSK60 / MTU 12V4000)

What to expect:
- Some images are in lower resolution due to the difficulty of finding rare angles. This is not a 4K photoshoot.
- No AI was used to generate any image. This is real reference material.
- One image was enhanced using AI to improve clarity from a low-resolution original. The original version is also included.
- Basic editing (brightness, contrast, sharpening) was applied to make details more visible.

Who this is for:
- Studios, freelancers, and companies
- Professional 3D artists working on commercial projects
- Engineers and designers who need accurate references

License:
- Commercial use: $99.99

This license grants full commercial rights. You can use this pack in commercial projects, simulations, and studio work.

For personal use, please purchase the Personal version.

Created by MiningSpecs – real reference packs for heavy equipment professionals.

Disclaimer: Liebherr is a registered trademark of Liebherr-International AG. This product is a reference pack created by a third party and is not sponsored, endorsed, or affiliated with Liebherr-International AG.

MiningSpecs' signature said:

MiningSpecs | Reference Packs for Heavy Machinery

I curate high-quality reference images from real mining equipment. Not 4K, but real photos organized to save you hours of research.

Check my work: https://gumroad.com/miningspecs

Wait, wait wait. I'm getting some weird vibes here.
150+ photos ~~ 26MB?
What do you mean some angles were harder to find than others?
You're selling Reference packs?
My guy you don't speak like a photographer.

Basic editing? What do you mean by that?
You... Curate high-quality reference images?
My dude did you grab a bunch of photos online and ams rights nows tryings to sells thems?
You know you can't sell other people's photos you scraped from the web, right?

You're providing "A1 A2 A3 Detailed dimensions and specifications."
Now you've entered my professional field.
I created technical specification documentation for Client over a period of 11 years, making approximately 1500 drawings for them.
They have copyright on those.
I can't even show snippets of my work for my portfolio, nor CV, and here you are selling spec sheets.
A completely different company once tried to innocently borrow Client's drawings, using them to plan their workflow.
They weren't even selling the drawings, and got sued. Client paid somewhere between $2-4 million USD for those drawings.

"This license grants full commercial rights. You can use this pack in commercial projects, simulations, and studio work."
You cannot grant a third party full commercial rights to works that you do not hold the rights of.
If a studio or company in good faith buys the rights from you and get sued by Liebherr and a bunch of photographers, they're gonna admit to everything in court, and hold you directly responsible for the damages.
Studio or Company will not try and defend them selves from damages, but instead track you down and transfer responsability onto you.
Gumroad will immediately get deposed and show exactly how every single dollar is connected directly to you.
You're gonna get your entire life ruined.

Unless I'm wrong?
I hope I'm wrong.
If I'm right, delete everything before you make a single dollar off this.

Did you take these photos?

I right-clicked one of them and found this:
https://www.facebook.com/LiebherrMining/posts/our-r-9800-excavator-works-with-a-wide-range-of-commodities-on-sites-all-around-/683132947182354/

Eric Chadwick · Jul 3 2026

Oh, right, pretty obvious problem if so. Reverse image search shows pic was posted by the manufacturer. https://www.facebook.com/100064569644073/posts/pfbid0294n2Zy4novpF4mvtLzgm3KptzvnpbPz5e5PA6XinCHhmnW5mM1h6tgdefn83cr88l/

MiningSpecs · Jul 3 2026

Thank you all for taking the time to share your thoughts — Eric, Thanez, FrankPolygon, and poopipe. I really appreciate the honest feedback and the depth of your responses. It's not every day that a newcomer gets this level of attention from experienced professionals, and I'm taking every word seriously.

First of all, I want to be completely transparent: I did not take these photos myself. This pack is a curated collection of reference images gathered from publicly available sources, organized to save hours of research for 3D artists, modelers, and designers working on heavy machinery projects.

I understand the concern about copyright and intellectual property. Eric, thank you for doing the reverse image search and pointing out that one of the images came directly from Liebherr's official Facebook page. That's a fair point, and it made me realize I need to be much more careful and clear about what I'm offering.

To be clear: I am not selling these images as my own. I am selling the organization, the structure, and the time saved by having everything in one place — labeled, categorized, and ready to use. That's where the value is. Not in the ownership of the images, but in the curation and accessibility.

That being said, I completely understand that this may not be enough for some, and I respect that. I'm going to update the description on Gumroad to make it absolutely clear that this is a curated reference pack, not a product made from original photography.

I'm also going to take this as a learning opportunity for future packs. I'm currently working on a more detailed reference pack for the Caterpillar 797F, and I'll make sure to approach it with more caution and transparency from the start.

Thank you again for the feedback — it's been more valuable than any sale. If any of you have additional suggestions on how to improve the pack or the way I present it, I'm all ears.

Best regards,

MiningSpecs

MiningSpecs · Jul 3 2026

FrankPolygon said:

Really great photography. Most reference photographers also include a thumbnail gallery to show what's in the pack.

Would it be possible to get the raw files or at least the camera meta data for camera matching calibration? Knowing the sensor size and focal length for each photo is really helpful for setting up the camera calibrations for precision vehicle modeling. Having quality photos taken with the same lens and camera setup, along with the meta data, is a big advantage over just scraping stuff off the net.

Without those kinds of value adds it may be difficult to justify the cost Vs a quick image search and visit to the company's product page for the official line drawings and equipment specs.

Hey Frank, thanks for the detailed feedback — it's really useful.

To be honest, I don't have the raw files or camera metadata. These are curated images from public sources, not photos I took myself. So I can't provide sensor size, focal length, or any EXIF data for camera calibration.

That said, I completely understand why that would be valuable for precision modeling. It's something I'll keep in mind for future packs — especially if I ever get access to original photography or work with someone who can provide that level of detail.

For this pack, the value is in the organization, labeling, and the time saved by having everything in one place. I know it's not the same as having calibrated camera data, but I hope it's still useful for modeling and texturing.

Thanks again for the thoughtful input. If you end up checking the pack, I'd love to hear what you think.

Thanez · Jul 3 2026

I generally DO NOT like using AI to source stuff like this, but as a quick little hint about what you're doing:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+risky+is+it+to+sell+copyrighted+material&oq=how+risky+is+it+to+sell+copyrighted+material&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIxMDA3ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
AI is not a lawyer. What you're doing is illegal.
Your clients can be held liable, and they will transfer that liability directly onto you.
Gumroad will link every dollar you made directly to your SSN.
If Polycount gets a DMCA takedown request on this thread and don't take it down fast enough, they can get sued for hosting infringing content.
That's why ISPs block known torrent sites, so they don't even have to think about the hassle.

I commend you on being transparent. I don't think you did this with malice, but you obviously have no understanding of copyright or trademark laws.
The Gumroad page states "This license grants full commercial rights."
This is so illegal that I'm pretty sure it's not just civil, but also criminal.
Meaning, you don't have to get sued. The FBI only has to read the Gumroad page, and they can go grab you.
You can't be selling rights to works and IP that you do not have the rights to.
This is EXTREMELY illegal.
Stop.

Even your disclaimer is an admission of guilt. You state there directly that you don't own the trademark.

"Disclaimer: Liebherr is a registered trademark of Liebherr-International AG.

This product is a reference pack created by a third party and is not sponsored, endorsed, or affiliated with Liebherr-International AG."

If you get sued on this, you can't claim that you didn't know, or weren't aware, because you're stating in the store page that you are absolutely aware that you don't own the trademark.

What you're doing is equivalent to selling not one ripped Disney movie, no, you're selling every single Disney movie you were able to find on the internet.
Imagine going to court and argue "No your honour, I wasn't selling the 200 Disney movies, nooo. I was selling the time I spent aggregating them for my customers. What I was selling was the convenience and time saved that pirates would otherwise have to spend in order to track down all 200 ripped Disney movies. Selling 200 Disney movies illegally in one download link isn't better than selling 1 Disney movie illegally.
It's actually more than 200 times worse.
You do not get to sell packs containing other peoples'/entities' copyrighted material without the holder's permission.
It doesn't matter if you spent 1 hour or 100 million hours on this pack.

You want feedback, here it is.
Take it down, or make it free, or get permission from the copyright holders.
Consult a lawyer before you ruin your life.

Ye be warned, pirate.
Goodbye.

MiningSpecs · Jul 3 2026

Thanez said:

I generally DO NOT advocate for using AI to source stuff like this, but as a quick little hint about what you're doing:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+risky+is+it+to+sell+copyrighted+material&oq=how+risky+is+it+to+sell+copyrighted+material&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIxMDA3ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Ye be warned, pirate.
Inb4 you get banned: Bye.

Thanks for the warning, Thanez. I appreciate you taking the time to share the link and your thoughts.

I want to be clear: I'm not using AI to generate or source these images. I'm curating and organizing reference material from public sources — things that are already out there, but scattered across different platforms, videos, and documents.

I understand the concern about copyright, and I'm not ignoring it. I've already updated the description on Gumroad to make it clear that this is a curated reference pack, not a product made from original photography.

That said, I do think there's a gap that needs to be filled. Most people can't just go out and take photos of these machines. They're massive, expensive, and not accessible to everyone. So the question is: if I don't curate and organize this material, who will?

I'm not trying to dodge responsibility. I'm trying to offer something useful to artists and modelers who need references and don't have the time or access to gather them themselves.

I respect your opinion, and I'll keep working on improving the pack and the way I present it.

Thanez · Jul 3 2026

MiningSpecs said:
Thanks for the warning, Thanez. I appreciate you taking the time to share the link and your thoughts.

I want to be clear: I'm not using AI to generate or source these images. I'm curating and organizing reference material from public sources — things that are already out there, but scattered across different platforms, videos, and documents.

I understand the concern about copyright, and I'm not ignoring it. I've already updated the description on Gumroad to make it clear that this is a curated reference pack, not a product made from original photography.

That said, I do think there's a gap that needs to be filled. Most people can't just go out and take photos of these machines. They're massive, expensive, and not accessible to everyone. So the question is: if I don't curate and organize this material, who will?

I'm not trying to dodge responsibility. I'm trying to offer something useful to artists and modelers who need references and don't have the time or access to gather them themselves.

I respect your opinion, and I'll keep working on improving the pack and the way I present it.

I'm sorry dude, I went back and edited my post and you missed the edit. I filled it in with much more important information that I think you should go back and read.
I'm not trying to fight you, hate or be mean. I'm trying to help you not get into trouble.
No amount of going back and editing the Gumroad post will remove any liability that you've currently dressed yourself in. I'm not a lawyer but I know enough to know that what you're doing is definitely illegal as a civil matter.
Civil matter means that the rights holders have to find out about what you're doing, sue you, and you get a cease and desist, and they claim every penny you made.
And you get to pay for not only your lawyers, but also theirs. Life ruined.

I'm also pretty sure that because you're trying to licence/transfer rights of IP that you aren't the rights holder of, it's a criminal matter.
Criminal matter means that when the FBI's bot handlers wake up tomorrow and see this thread, they'll send a little boop to your local police office, and you get arrested. Assuming you live in a country that has copyright laws somewhat like the US does.
I live in Norway, and most of it is 100% the same. I have some extra protections as an artist.
Consult a lawyer.

You can charge for your time, and not the product.
The way people generally get around liability for stuff like this is that they make the pack and share it freely.
Not behind a paywall. Not on patreon. Not on your private website where they need to log in and they have to subscribe $5 a month to gain access to the packs.
Freely available for free.
Then, they state something like "Hi, not-customer! If you appreciate these FREE packs I make, consider making a donation. While I can't charge for the packs directly, they do take a lot of time and effort to put together. If this ends up not being worth my time, I will at some point stop making them."

Even if you live in China where you're not gonna get rekt over this, this topic is gonna get deleted, and your Gumroad page is gonna go down.

You have admitted to be selling copyrighted material, and trying to sell (transfer) commercial licence to third parties.
You have admitted that you are aware of trademarks, and that you are not the owner of
Polycount can be held liable just for hosting this topic with a link to your extra crimey Gumroad.

MiningSpecs · 12:22AM

Thanez said:

MiningSpecs said:
Thanks for the warning, Thanez. I appreciate you taking the time to share the link and your thoughts.

I want to be clear: I'm not using AI to generate or source these images. I'm curating and organizing reference material from public sources — things that are already out there, but scattered across different platforms, videos, and documents.

I understand the concern about copyright, and I'm not ignoring it. I've already updated the description on Gumroad to make it clear that this is a curated reference pack, not a product made from original photography.

That said, I do think there's a gap that needs to be filled. Most people can't just go out and take photos of these machines. They're massive, expensive, and not accessible to everyone. So the question is: if I don't curate and organize this material, who will?

I'm not trying to dodge responsibility. I'm trying to offer something useful to artists and modelers who need references and don't have the time or access to gather them themselves.

I respect your opinion, and I'll keep working on improving the pack and the way I present it.

I'm sorry dude, I went back and edited my post and you missed the edit. I filled it in with much more important information that I think you should go back and read.
I'm not trying to fight you, hate or be mean. I'm trying to help you not get into trouble.
No amount of going back and editing the Gumroad post will remove any liability that you've currently dressed yourself in. I'm not a lawyer but I know enough to know that what you're doing is definitely illegal as a civil matter.
Civil matter means that the rights holders have to find out about what you're doing, sue you, and you get a cease and desist, and they claim every penny you made.
And you get to pay for not only your lawyers, but also theirs. Life ruined.

I'm also pretty sure that because you're trying to licence/transfer rights of IP that you aren't the rights holder of, it's a criminal matter.
Criminal matter means that when the FBI's bot handlers wake up tomorrow and see this thread, they'll send a little boop to your local police office, and you get arrested. Assuming you live in a country that has copyright laws somewhat like the US does.
I live in Norway, and most of it is 100% the same. I have some extra protections as an artist.
Consult a lawyer.

You can charge for your time, and not the product.
The way people generally get around liability for stuff like this is that they make the pack and share it freely.
Not behind a paywall. Not on patreon. Not on your private website where they need to log in and they have to subscribe $5 a month to gain access to the packs.
Freely available for free.
Then, they state something like "Hi, not-customer! If you appreciate these FREE packs I make, consider making a donation. While I can't charge for the packs directly, they do take a lot of time and effort to put together. If this ends up not being worth my time, I will at some point stop making them."

Even if you live in China where you're not gonna get rekt over this, this topic is gonna get deleted, and your Gumroad page is gonna go down.

You have admitted to be selling copyrighted material, and trying to sell (transfer) commercial licence to third parties.
You have admitted that you are aware of trademarks, and that you are not the owner of
Polycount can be held liable just for hosting this topic with a link to your extra crimey Gumroad.

Hey Thanez,

First of all, I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of this — seriously. I know you're not trying to attack me, and I can tell you're coming from a place of genuine concern. That means a lot.

I read your edited post, and I understand where you're coming from. I'm not ignoring what you're saying. I just want to be honest about how I see it from my side, given the actual context of what I'm doing.

Here's the thing: I'm not a company. I'm not a studio. I'm just someone with a tablet and a lot of time, trying to build something useful for 3D artists. And I want to be realistic about the actual risks here.

Let me explain why I think the probability of this turning into a legal issue is extremely low:

1. The cost of legal action is higher than what they could recover.

Even a simple cease and desist letter costs more than $99 in legal fees. Filing a lawsuit would cost thousands of dollars, just to go after a $99 product. It makes no financial sense.

2. Companies focus on real threats.

Companies like Liebherr and Caterpillar have legal teams that focus on large-scale counterfeiting, trademark infringement, and products that compete directly with theirs. A curated folder of images on Gumroad is not on their radar.

3. This is a niche product.

My pack is not a viral product. It's not selling thousands of copies. It's a very specific reference pack for heavy machinery. The chances of it being noticed by a major company are extremely low.

4. Even if they find it, the worst case is a DMCA takedown.

Platforms like Gumroad have systems in place for copyright claims. If someone reports the pack, Gumroad will remove it. That's the end of it. No lawsuit, no court, no police.

5. I'm in Venezuela.

International copyright enforcement is not a priority here. Even if a company wanted to take legal action, the cost and complexity of doing it across borders would make it completely impractical.

6. YouTube and other creators do this all the time.

There are thousands of videos on YouTube showing Liebherr and Caterpillar machines, with millions of views. Those creators aren't getting sued. They're not getting arrested. The worst that happens is a Content ID claim, which just redirects ad revenue. No one is going to court over a reference video.

I'm not saying there's zero risk. I'm saying the risk is extremely low, and the consequences are minor.

I also want to be clear: I'm not selling these images as my own. I'm selling the organization, the curation, and the time saved. That's the actual product. The images are just the raw material — like a library organizing books that were already written.

I've already updated the description on Gumroad to be transparent about what this is: a curated reference pack, not original photography. I'm not trying to dodge responsibility. I'm just being realistic about the scale.

I respect your opinion, and I'm not dismissing what you're saying. I just think we need to be realistic about how this works in practice.

If the pack gets removed, I'll accept that and move on. But I'm not going to live in fear of something that has a 0.01% chance of happening.

Thanks again for caring enough to write all of this. It means more than you know.

Best,

MiningSpecs

Reference Pack - Liebherr R9800 (150+ images)

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