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[WIP] DBAL-A3 — CAD-to-Game / Mid-poly Workflow (Internal Mechanics)

Hi guys! My name is Nikita, I'm making a Dbal a3 laser model. With working mechanics. It will be animated and show how its mechanical base works, etc.

I originally went with the CAD (Plasticity-fusion 360) pipeline - export via Plasticity - to Zbrush (finishing High poly) - blender (creating low poly) - marmoset baking - substance painter texturing.

Everything was fine until the low poly stage. But this is my first experience creating a mid poly model.

I turned for help to a person who was a team lead in COD Modern Warfare 3 and Starfield. He cut part of the pipeline for me since I'm not doing a sculpt and the Bevel shader already exists in Marmoset.
And now it looks like this:
CAD - export to MOi3d - Low poly in blender 3d - High poly in Marmoset - baking in Marmoset and texturing in substance painter. It's much faster this way, of course.

I made the low poly. Can you give advice, what articles to read, and what sins are visible? I will be very grateful. I'm attaching 3 screenshots: High poly Plasticity - High poly zbrush - low poly blender.


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  • sacboi
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    nik2ki said:
    Everything was fine until the low poly stage. But this is my first experience creating a mid poly model.

    CAD - export to MOi3d - Low poly in blender 3d - High poly in Marmoset - baking in Marmoset and texturing in substance painter. It's much faster this way, of course.

    I made the low poly. Can you give advice, what articles to read, and what sins are visible? I will be very grateful. I'm attaching 3 screenshots: High poly Plasticity - High poly zbrush - low poly blender.
    A fairly convoluted source / target mesh generation method imo so basically I'm confused in what exactly you're asking here?

    Albeit have you actually tested each baking workflow i.e. 'highflow' (high to low) vs midpoly then compared results?
  • nik2ki
    What I described is a weapon creation pipeline for the weapon art niche. It's a standard corporate pipeline. I asked for an evaluation of my mid-poly model, taking into account that it was created for macro shots.

    There was no question here about which pipeline was better or worse.
    If you are not familiar with this topic, please do not write.
  • Eric Chadwick
    First off, welcome to Polycount!

    Secondly, it's not good form to criticize someone providing feedback. If you don't like the feedback, you are free to ignore it of course. However, sacboi is a knowledgeable member with a lot of experience building hardsurface assets, so it would benefit you to at least keep an open mind, and consider their feedback thoughtfully.

    Your lowpoly model is meant for use in a game engine, right? It helps to consider which angles it will be viewed from, and how close to the player's camera. To me this model has too much wasted detail. The knurling for example is usually done with a normal map, unless the silhouette is really required.

    Also the knobs are welded into the surface, with corresponding triangle fans. This is fairly wasteful as well, and could be done by just floating them over the body. It also shows some unnecessary bevels where some knobs meet the body.

    Overall though it's a nice asset. Keep refining!
  • nik2ki
    Ok, please delete my article and my account.
  • sacboi
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    nik2ki said:
    ...what articles to read [snip]

    For clarification, some info as to the basic differences between High / Low and Mid Poly workflows so I'd strongly recommend the various resources posted on that thread:

  • Eric Chadwick
    nik2ki said:
    Ok, please delete my article and my account.

    I'm curious, what did you expect to get from your post here, but you didn't get?

    We do value feedback ourselves, on how we can improve in providing a community that hopefully helps each other improve. What's wrong with our responses that makes you seemingly want to rage-quit? It's a sad outcome that I'd like to prevent if possible.

    Personally, I like your work, and I was looking forward to seeing where you were going to get to with it.

    Still, if you just want to delete your account, then please email us and we'll help out... https://polycount.com/discussion/63361/information-about-polycount-new-member-introductions/p1#new-members
  • iam717
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    Everything was fine until the low poly stage. But this is my first experience creating a mid poly model.
    I turned for help to a person who was a team lead in COD Modern Warfare 3 and Starfield. He cut part of the pipeline for me since I'm not doing a sculpt.
    my guess to the above request:
    Seems like a "art-test" or some variation, 6 month(probation) timed trial & this maybe wasn't supposed to be posted?

    Some parts seem very busy with the edges where they might not be needed otherwise this is pretty sharp looking so other than what i mention as a possible issue i do not see a reason for the request.

    Perhaps we are not fast enough for people in the response department? :( i used to feel that way to, than i just kept it moving, can't please everyone.  We do hope you stay cause we like to build back better. ;)
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