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Does anyone use instaMAT . is it worth a try and deeper learning?

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I  wonder  does it provide any advantages vs  substance Designer/Painter .    Youtube videos are not very informative or showing  something  really new , I mean new approaches  , workarounds for limitations  of adobe software?        Something  good AI  really helping and  not just being one more useless toy ?       Something  to composite 8k  photogrammetry sources  or render AOVs    because SDesigner  is not really good for this?   Hi res to low res workflow?  not other way around ?      

Chat GPT  recommended it to me  when I once again complained about  usual  Adobe  substance suite annoyances .   No need of sbsar export and so on.   
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  • poopipe
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    poopipe grand marshal polycounter
    Short answer. 

    Yes

    I liked it enough to buy a handful of licenses for the team.  We don't use it very much as it doesn't replace an established designer/painter pipeline but it does have some really nice features that make geometry based materials easy to process. 

    It's a good tool if you're operating largely independently, I don't think it's a designer replacement for teams as it lacks the asset /resource management that makes designer powerful 
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  • gnoop
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    gnoop sublime tool
    Thanks poopipe.   Chat tells me it has true vector brushes  which can be set  to curve deform  or distribute  images randomly  like some old 2d vector soft . I am so tired of Designer  curves  system  that almost impossible to control  and Painter  indexed square stumps blurry  brushes.   is it true ?   Chat  hallucinates a lot again with v5 released  
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  • poopipe
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    poopipe grand marshal polycounter
    I'm pretty sure they still do a month's trial so you might as well just give it a go - beats asking a robot  that's recycling commentary written by people who don't know how to use it properly
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  • sacboi
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    sacboi godlike master sticky
    I take it they've fixed/patched their front end vulnerabilities since release?
    https://blenderartists.org/t/instamat-the-substance-designer-painter-alternative-we-have-been-waiting-for/1510473/28?page=4
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  • gnoop
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    gnoop sublime tool
     I just have no time lately to waste lots for learning something  just to  figure out  there is no real advantages.      Those month long trials are in fact just couple weekends usually when you able to try something.    But chatGPTv5 makes Insatmat sound super cool like he wants to sell it to me. 
      
     For example it tells me there is a "pixel snap" option in their soft  when you cold move something  say 5 output  pixels right or left  eliminating sub-pixel  blurring.      I did it with pixel processor for Designer ages ago , an exact pixel  shift,  simple like 2x2 math    but being   ported as sbsar to Painter it only works in square format for me .   Which I hardly ever use in Painter .       So for Painter I have to keep twice or 4x resolution versions of everything   and  downscale at export  to just keep same  clean crisp details as Designer does and its a hell of extra DAM headache.    Beside the fact   all the procedural stuff looks  good only in native pixel resolution really  you initially did it for.       

    Can anyone confirm about pixel grid snapping   or something in InstaMAT ?    
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  • stray
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    gnoop said:
    But chatGPTv5 makes Insatmat sound super cool like he wants to sell it to me.   
    As mentioned above, it's probably because there's not many actual human-written reviews on the net -_- It doesn't appear to have a proper community around it: most descriptions come either from a year old "is it going to replace Substance" news articles, or from Instamat itself. The bot probably going to sound like an ad for a while.
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    stray said:
    gnoop said:
    But chatGPTv5 makes Insatmat sound super cool like he wants to sell it to me.   
    As mentioned above, it's probably because there's not many actual human-written reviews on the net -_- It doesn't appear to have a proper community around it: most descriptions come either from a year old "is it going to replace Substance" news articles, or from Instamat itself. The bot probably going to sound like an ad for a while.

    it actually could  look through  published documentation  if you specifically ask it to do so.   And  i sometimes understand absolutely  nothing  in said documentations  while chat does and can explain it in normal peoples language. 
    I learned more from Chat  about physics  for example  than I  ever did  from human teachers .   Just to satisfy my curiosity. 
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