best way to retopo this shape?

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

I need some help. im going about this the wrong way. it hurts my bones

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MrD4rth · Jan 2020

here is the high

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

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this was the original geo to the handle. i have redone it since it didnt come out correctly. and still.. no luck. i imagine its more a problem with the high poly shape in than the low....

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

heres how the most recent normal bake turned out

kanga · Jan 2020

Your question should be posted here: https://polycount.com/categories/technical-talk and there is no image in your post above.

There is no profile on your lowpoly. Just like you have followed the shape at the base you have to follow the shape of the handle. For baking your lowpoly has to follow the form of the hipoly as closely as possible. You just have to scale down the edges in the x and y axis (if z is up) so the verts are the same distance from the hipoly base as the peaks of your hipoly.

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

oops.. thanks for the help anyways. my low poly needs some finesse then.

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

not that ya care, boss but!

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Brian "Panda" Choi · Jan 2020

Do you NEED this to follow the twist curvature? At what distance will this even be seen?

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

i want to make sure its as game ready as possible. I imagine it from a first person perspective, so potentially within 2ft/50cm.

really would like to make a bit of a show piece out of it.. ill share the rest of the model to make sure people think im spending my time on the right geometry.

Alex_J · Jan 2020

Have you tried the simple way first? i.e. bake it to a flat cylinder. Then evaluate what it needs from there. Better to try to the simplest, easiest approach first -- especially when you aren't exactly sure what you are doing.

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

im gonna decimate and retopo in zbrush because frig this.

and I have tried to bake from a simpler cylinder shape. with less twist to it... thats actually the normal you see is attempt 2. the first one was just as bad.. so

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

uhhh, actually maybe i misunderstood. ill see what happens if this next bake is unsuccessful with the zbrush retopo and try to focus on just the spiral itself and a primitive cylinder, just to get it right

Domslice · Jan 2020

Brian "Panda" Choi said:

Do you NEED this to follow the twist curvature? At what distance will this even be seen?

I'm in agreement with Brian here, you'd probably be fine just going ahead with a cylinder. Perhaps something like this if you'd like to have the undulations more pronounced.

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kanga · Jan 2020

Yeah that looks better. As a general thing cylinders are ok at about 6 sides, so since you are only showing half a cylinder you could bring the sides from 10 down to 3 around the circumference and keep the polys square on the way up. Like the others said tho it depends on how much of the haft will be seen as to how detailed you'd want it.

Montreseur · Jan 2020

Dynamesh -> Decimation Master -> Smoothing groups -> unrap

jose.fuentes · Jan 2020

I agree with others on the thread, I would start with a simple cylinder and then add some edges to help with the silhouette where needed.

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

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so this is the model after I took the hight into Zbrush and retopod it. Then I made a new low with a simple cylinder.

baked the normal map and my resulttt!

MrD4rth · Jan 2020

Ghogiel · Jan 2020

It looks like you have geometry on that low poly that you aren't using to vary the silhouette to match the high poly shape, it's just a cylinder, with loops you are doing nothing with.

I would just use the freeform tools in the ribbon, conform brush on the low poly to match the high poly. If you were to actually put the loops roughly where there would be doing the most work it might look something like this

EvilReFlex · Jan 2020

This is the easiest way I can image:
But for a sword grip a simple cylinder should also be enough. (or maybe just a twistet cylinder)

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MrD4rth · Jan 2020

learning a lot from this. I appreciate all the help so far. I am going with a simple cylinder now, and i'm incorporating the hilt into it.

best way to retopo this shape?

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