WIP : Boat house (UE4)

Grogbar · Jan 2015

Hi there!

I love this concept art and i will make it in UE4:

Here is my progress since this morning:

I tried to have clean mod snap on a 10cm grid.
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Doxturtle · Jan 2015

Really nice concept. I am interested to see how this turns out, it reminds me of skyrim a bit

Marshkin · Jan 2015

Very solid block out so far. I'm looking forward to seeing more!

Murasam · Jan 2015

Cool, can't wait to see this textured.

Murasam · Jan 2015

I know it's still in the beginning phase, but I would keep an eye on the size of the roof it looks a little short.

DKeymer3d · Jan 2015

Ah this concept. Seen this several times before and wanting to make it but never did. It's a good start so far. Looking forward to seeing this develop.

macoll · Jan 2015

Nice, keep up the nice work

XD

Grogbar · Feb 2015

Hi all,

I have almost modelize modular props for the house. I used Mudbox and max for the bakes. All props are contained in 2*2048 (empty areas are for ropes to come).

3dsmax import form Mudbox:

Uv packs:

Props in UE4 for lighting tests (for the moment, only normals and AO):

And the start of the house's creation:

C&C are welcome!
If someone have good tips for wood's albedo and rougness, don't hesitate to tell me!!:poly121:

jeremiah_bigley · Feb 2015

really really solid work! I was excited when I saw such a solid blockout and modular pieces. My biggest complaint is the AO.

They look like bad Ndo AOs and imo are destroying your presentation and will muddy your textures. For wood grain the AO should be super fine just to enhance the detail already there.

Otherwise keep the great work coming. You seem to be moving a nice speed!

Grogbar · Feb 2015

thx for advices!

Grogbar · Feb 2015

Little up of the house (materials still basic)
Planned final lighting will be at night with some lanterns

Doxturtle · Feb 2015

looking great so far!

JamesArk · Feb 2015

Shaping up nicely indeed :thumbup:

warby · Feb 2015

great choice of concept, loving the lowpolys and great scene you have them composed into so far as well

BUT:

for the love of god do the wood with a highres tileable texture
and do all your corner bevels with support loops on your lowpoly.
this is some of the least effcient use of texture memory i have ever seen!
you are getting like NO bang for the buck with those 2 2048 textures.

Grogbar · Feb 2015

Thx for your comment Warby! I need critiques like that!
Ok for corners bevels!
For the textures, i am ok that they are blurries, i have planned to add micro details in materials for counter that. But i am not sure for the result.

If i do textures with a tileable texture, i will loose "geographic details" (i don't kown how to tell this in english:)) on my normal map!
ex:

It's not better to upgrade to 2*4096? and add micro details in materials?
You think 2*2048 is to big for 30 props?
PS : you learn me the expression "no bang for the buck"^^

warby · Feb 2015

here i did an example layout how i would handle the texture for your scene:

note how its 1 texture sheet not 2 gpus waste a bit of precious time when ever they switch from one object to the next its worse when the 2 objects have 2 different materials so the best case scenario would be ALL the meshes in your scene use one and the same material. thats of course not always possible but the closer to 100% you are the better so 90% is better than 30% for example

another advantage of my layout apart from performance is you will have much higher resolution for the most common occurring structure in your scene (wood grain) if you overlap the uvs of all your props onto the same area.

the unique stuff you marked in your shot i would put all of that tightly puzzled at the bottom of the texture and model some lowpoly geometry that you can map that stuff onto.

Grogbar · Feb 2015

Thx a lot for the layout template, i will test with this method!

macoll · Feb 2015

Any new ? Want to see mo

MephistonX · Feb 2015

Love the concept, your approach looks pretty good so far but I agree with warby, try and get the main modular parts down to one atlas.

But keep at it looking great!

DKeymer3d · Feb 2015

As well as having reuseable assets you can also have reuseable texture parts. The key to optimisation (and general practicality) is to reuse as much as possible without it becoming too obvious. With your assets, just bake down the basics such as rounded edges. Don't do detail like wood grain and cuts. You can have more assets and at a much smaller texture size on just one sheet with this and you don't need that much resolution to maintain the detail. You will get the texture density and the detail back with a tiling texture over top of this. This is where you get your detail such as wood grain and cuts.

GrungyStudios · Feb 2015

Coming along very nicely man! keep it up

Grogbar · Feb 2015

Hi all,

Thx for comments! I corrected my texture atlas and continue the house!

I have almost done big objects, and now i place ropes and small details.
I will test water decals and particles for simulate waves on sides.
Lighting final will be with big moon and lanterns.
It remain some tunings on textures and doors.

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ElectricEchoes · Feb 2015

This is gorgeous. It will look even better with moonlight and lanterns.

Drgreenethumb · Feb 2015

This is looking very nice! I am looking forward to seeing the final renders. Are you planing on adding any buildings in the background? to me it seems a bit plan but I could understand if you just want this to be the main image. Also are you planing on adding some paint to the wood in some places? I feel like that could take this to the next level and it would not be that hard to add a Vertex Painting to the wood pieces.

GhostBlades · Feb 2015

Look great so far

cant wait to see when its done

ZacD · Feb 2015

Might want to add different wear on the floors, hand rails, and walls. It's a bit too uniform right now.

Grogbar · Feb 2015

Hi there,

i tested to add decals with paint texture, but it works only on direct lighting, if someone know how to render decals in the dark, i will take!!

I started the final lighting and ambiance.

know issues:
- Wood needs more gloss.
- windows don't have textures yet.
- i need a skybox with clouds!
- A lot of tuning is planned.
- it 's rain into the house

The first image is photoshoped for show the result i want, the others are not retouched:

CandyStripes05 · Feb 2015

sub'd to follow and catch up on the readings at a later time

Doxturtle · Feb 2015

Looking great!

In my opinion I think it looked better during the day, it gave me a kind of Skyrim feel.

Can I see your texture sheet? I am interested to see how you handled the textures, they look great

Anngelica · Feb 2015

Hey, this is beautiful! Just my opinion, but I think it's a little dark. You put so much detail into it and it's really difficult to see in the night shots.

Either way, awesome work!

chriszuko · Feb 2015

This is a cool piece. I agree completely with anngelica, you definitely need to brighten up the scene as a whole. Also add either a few more lights to the house itself or the deck next to it. Few more tweaks and it will start to really pop. Keep going!

macoll · Feb 2015

Nice up bro, great props

Yep too dark indeed...even the moon can lights the world with hard shadows you know

I really see a background like in the sceenie below...put some sheets on the water with a panner texture with some mist...just some hills on the background with some trees sheets aswell...just my 2 cents.
Keep up the nice work :thumbup:

PS: the lighting from the lanterns could be more orange since it is supposed to have a real flame inside...well, thats my point.
bodominjarvi_v4.3_-_niveaux.jpg

macoll · Feb 2015

:poly136:What else?

nastobi123 · Feb 2015

@Grogbar hey this is badass man. I was just wondering how did you add those subtle water or reflections ?? on the wood planks ?? Noob question.

@Warby that's actually helpful And hilarious at the same time.

macoll · Feb 2015

nastobi123 wrote: »

I was just wondering how did you add those subtle water or reflections ?? on the wood planks ??

Reflections are realtime in UE4 with the Sphere Reflection Capture actor... you just have to create a subtle roughness map

macoll · Mar 2015

Where is teh house ? :B

codegrey · Mar 2015

I'm really glad to see someone post a texture atlas with a modular build like this. I love seeing models, lighting, etc. But it really helps to see the textures as well to gain a better understanding of how to properly use a texture atlas with modular items. Thanks!

WIP : Boat house (UE4)

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