Zbrush skills from the 18th century

Eric Chadwick · May 2012

wow.

Il Disinganno, Queirolo Francesco, 1754

Cristo Velato, Sanmartino Giuseppe, 1753

Swizzle · May 2012

How about some from the 17th century?

Apollo and Daphne, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, c. 162225

The Rape of Proserpina, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, 1622

walreu · May 2012

That Proserpina piece is just astonishing. Sick skillz!
..the way you can almost feel the skin in your own hands where the hands are.

Andreas · May 2012

Eric Chadwick wrote: »

wow.

That's just showing off.

Computron · May 2012

He didn't cheat and use an actual net? That's cool.

Will Faucher · May 2012

Do any of those artists have an online portfolio? I know where they could land a job in an instant. Oh wait...

Eric Chadwick · May 2012

Yeah Bernini is totally amazing.

Mark Dygert · May 2012

Witchcraft... Queirolo used witchcraft to turn actual humans and objects into stone?

The last words poor little Alessandro ever heard:
"Hey there little boy can I get you to wear these wings and hold this net... thanks!"

I assume that's stone, is it something else? ... How... in the... with... stone?

GarageBay9 · May 2012

Mark Dygert wrote: »

Witchcraft... Queirolo used witchcraft to turn actual humans and objects into stone?

The last words poor little Alessandro ever heard:
"Hey there little boy can I get you to wear these wings and hold this net... thanks!"

I assume that's stone, is it something else? ... How... in the... with... stone?

They were big on sacrificing goats back in those days.

Seems we've forgotten some important parts of the workflow.

cptSwing · May 2012

goat sacrifices > synced tangents

Computron · May 2012

cptSwing wrote: »

goat sacrifices > synced tangents

Quote of the century.

GarageBay9 · May 2012

Computron wrote: »

Quote of the century.

T-shirt time.

Eric Chadwick · May 2012

I had a chance to see these in person. Absolutely amazing, considering they were chipped and polished from blocks of solid marble. Talk about patience and persistence. No freakin UNDO hotkey.

We were talking about St Peters Basilica today for some reason. Reminded me of this one, tomb of Pope Alexander VII, another Bernini. Skeleton is bronze, the rest is marble. Thing is gigantic, the door is about 11 feet tall.

Andreas · May 2012

Do art historians have any idea how he went about sculpting that net? That wasn't carved out of stone was it? Doesn't seem possible. That shit would break. Sorry to keep going on about the net, but DAMN. (How have I not seen this sculpture before? Why isn't it as famous as freakin' David?)

D4V1DC · May 2012

Computron wrote: »

cptSwing wrote: »

goat sacrifices > synced tangents

Quote of the century.

Where's my damn goat?

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Sick thread, yes I love to see stone work! Amazing.:poly142:

mLichy · May 2012

Insanity

Jon Rush · May 2012

Yeah I think that net is sculpted... that's insane... bigger pic:

dtschultz · May 2012

Wow! That veiled Christ sculpture is astonishing. All of those thin folds.

daphz · May 2012

this stuff is absolutely amazing! straight to my inspiration folder

Steve Schulze · May 2012

There's some crazy stuff in that Capella Sansevero where the first sculpture with the netting was housed.
Metal+Veins.jpg

These were initially thought to be plastinated cadavers. Turns out they're sculptures constructed from wax, wire and silk.

Andreas · May 2012

Jon Rush wrote: »

Yeah I think that net is sculpted... that's insane...

From a solid piece of rock, or maybe fired clay on wires? It looks even crazier up close... if that was sculpted from a single piece of rock, it'd be as mind-boggling than the pyramids or anything the egyptians built.

Eric Chadwick · May 2012

Andreas wrote: »

Do art historians have any idea how he went about sculpting that net? That wasn't carved out of stone was it? Doesn't seem possible. That shit would break. Sorry to keep going on about the net, but DAMN. (How have I not seen this sculpture before? Why isn't it as famous as freakin' David?)

A single block of stone, yes. :poly128:

http://www.museosansevero.it/inglese/cappellasansevero/statue/disinganno.html

... the sculptor had to burnish the sculpture with pumice personally, as the craftsmen of the period, though specialised in the burnishing phase, refused to touch the delicate net in case it broke into pieces in their hands.

yodude87 · May 2012

ive seen it, and trust me, seeing it live is REALLY frigging amazing.

Andreas · May 2012

Eric Chadwick wrote: »

A single block of stone, yes. :poly128:

http://www.museosansevero.it/inglese/cappellasansevero/statue/disinganno.html

Envart · May 2012

Master works. Absolutely incredible.

ambershee · May 2012

It's stone - I saw a lot of similar sculpting in my time in Asia. One building near Khoo Kongsi had pillars that had three layers of murals carved into them, each layer around four-six inches deeper than the other. Madness!

yodude87 · May 2012

yea, its from a single block... but there might be some wizardry behind, lets say.

the san severo chapel was a private chapel of the sansevero family in naples (city i live in nowadays). and the guy that used to go there praying, lets put it this way, used to try some chemistry stuff (alchemy, or whatever you wanna call it), including playing with "liquid marble": indeed the floor pattern is all intarsiated in marble with some really complicated patterns, impossible to sculpt (they were liquid at first, then poured into the crevices, then it would solidify and become "marble").

there might have been some kind of thing similar in the net sculpting, i reckon... just me guessing though, never really minded to ask it ^^

Steve Schulze · May 2012

So this "liquid marble" that'd have to be a cement, right? I can't imagine back in the 1700s that creating a sufficient amount of molten marble would have really been possible. Wouldn't it lose its crystaline properties being ground up into a powder and kind of wind up defeating the purpose of using it over some cheaper material?

yodude87 · May 2012

well, the legend says it was really a "liquid of his invention, almost identical to marble".

indeed, eventhough its a legend, the veil on the christ sculpture is also said (even if proved false) to be made with this liquid, "crystalizing a piece of cloth:

http://www.museosansevero.it/inglese/cappellasansevero/cristovelato/leggendadelvelo.html

there are also many other legends surrounding the chapel, like the anatomical machines... and so many other stuff ^^

more info here http://trifter.com/europe/italy/naples-masonic-chapel-sansevero-and-breathing-christ/

Zbrush skills from the 18th century

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