Shader Error. Max12? 3Point? End User? ATI?

oXYnary · Nov 2011

I cant figure this out. I went back and in fact made the front doors of the cabinet into separate smoothing groups for each plane and then separated the UV's as I thought for some reason that was causing the problem. (Well that was a waste of an hour). It ended up with the same results you see.

I used Xnormals shader as an example to show that in fact its something within max going on. I am using the quality 3point modifier.

Any Ideas? Is this because its (the mirror) is sideways and the 3Point shader acts like the Unreal Engine with needing to be horizontal? Except even some of the side views on the same side don't "interlock" shade together correctly.

(yes I separate the mirror before baking).

Xnorm

Maxnorm

Wire

UVlayout (part of large grouping texture sheet)

(the door is the lower left hand)

EarthQuake · Nov 2011

Sorry its not entirely clear from your image, what is the exact problem?

Are the doors not being lit evenly or something?

mLichy · Nov 2011

Whenever I "Mirror" something, I've always used Symmetry in Max, and baked with Symmetry on my HP and LP meshes, this way it usually gives me no seam or a extremely minor seam.

I leave my UVs overlapped when baking too, no issue.

oXYnary · Nov 2011

EQ, if you look at the Max picture of the same angle with the specular turned off so it all the same spec amount. You can see the doors are shaded while the frame facing the same direction are capturing the light.

mLichy, thats what I do except making it onw object before baking, and pulling the inverted uvs (the mirrored side) of the canvas so you wont have two objects baking on top of one another.

FWIW I baked the UVs in xnormal as well with the same error in Max. If I get some time today I will try opening this in Max 11 to see if I have yet again found another bug with 12.

oXYnary · Nov 2011

You know what? It is 3Point or Max 12. I just tried the same file in Max11 with 3point and it looks fine.

My DX settings for both are the same.

mLichy · Nov 2011

I wouldn't doubt it was Max 2012. They broke a ton of stuff in that release. They are still patching it

EarthQuake · Nov 2011

Yeah I think there is some... nitrus or somesuch that you need to disable? Sorry, not a max guy but I think a bunch of people had the similar issues if you check the 3pshader thread.

Ace-Angel · Nov 2011

Disable Nitrous + Gamma.

Also, advice is to try and shader view your model in Max 2011. 2012 isn't exactly ready for prime-time.

Lennyagony · Nov 2011

http://www.3pointstudios.com/3pointshader_help.shtml

Right at the bottom of the FAQ page, the last two points fixed up similar issues i was having with 3point/max 2012.

Works like a charm now

oXYnary · Nov 2011

I know about the nitrous, I didn't realize the gamma/lut would have so much effect. That was the issue. As you were, ignore the user error. Bleh.

Thanks for the help all though for this dummy.

Shader Error. Max12? 3Point? End User? ATI?

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