Axe Gun WIP
Hello poly count. this is my first upload to the forum and I just wanted some feedback on my axe gun. still a wip. any tips/advice would be appreciated.
[IMG][/img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7573/renderdg.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4895/hamerwireframe.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9342/hammercloseup.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2438/wireframen.jpg
5745 polys. if you want some more images let me know. thanks pc
um... not sure why i cant make the img tags work... can anyone help me out? I cant attach a file becuase it just says upload failed.
[IMG][/img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7573/renderdg.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4895/hamerwireframe.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9342/hammercloseup.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2438/wireframen.jpg
5745 polys. if you want some more images let me know. thanks pc
um... not sure why i cant make the img tags work... can anyone help me out? I cant attach a file becuase it just says upload failed.
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the gun design looks pretty neat. modeling isnt bad. textures need work. you need to define the materials instead of having them just look like a colored game mesh. the details in the wood are very unapparent and the metal doesnt really look like metal at all. can you post up your texture sheets? and as of now that blade doesnt look very sharp at all.
the body
the second one is a bit messy i know but there isnt any overlapping wireframes.
http://www.nextgenhardsurface.com/index.php?pageid=racer445
No. This makes no sense because you're telling him this for the wrong reasons. The problem is not that he's using unique textures - it's that his texturing skills aren't good enough to get the most out of those unique textures. Sure, he could mirror some things here and there and arrange his islands better, so his UVing isn't perfect - but that's not his biggest problem.
ranger_park:
You seem to be spending the most of your budget - both polygons and texture - on where you've spent the most effort. This is not how it works - well, it partially is. I can understand you're proud of how the hammer piece looks, as it's a complex part to model and you've obviously spent most of your time on it.
But, I don't care about how proud you are. I care about how good it looks in a game, and your pride has nothing to do with that. These are things that do affect the in-game looks:
-size of the object on screen (larger = more polygons & more texture)
-complexity of the object (more complex = more polies, but texture usually stays the same.)
-importance of the object (if it's only going to be seen for a split second, it can be pretty ugly)
Like polygons and texture space, you should also budget your time. Spend the most effort where it gets the most results. But you seem to not have divided your time well, and spent a disproportionately large amount of time on the hammer, it ends up looking the nicest, and you want to display it the best. But this comes at the cost of the rest, the largest shapes, the most visible elements, in proportion they get less time, less texture space and less polygons than they should.
Now, the hammer IS more detailed than the rest of the model, I'll give you that - but it's also far smaller than say, the axe. Take a look at one of the screws, and compare that with the axehead. The screws are around 600~750 triangles apiece, so around 1800 for the three. The axehead seems to be only around 250~300 triangles, yet is a similarly round shape. Now look at your render - which one takes up more space? Is it worth devoting a third of your entire budget to three tiny circles of about 10x10 pixels? Hint: it's not.
To summarize: you need to learn to balance your budget, both the technical specs and the time you spend on a certain piece.
On to other matters: your technical skills are not up to such a detailed model yet. I feel you're rushing in too fast, and trying to achieve AAA-level first person models right at the start. I highly suggest kicking it back a notch, and using lower specifications for your first models. Why? Because less polygons means:
-you have less to 'control' so it feels less overwhelming
-each polygon and pixel you change has a larger effect, so you can A work faster and B feel better what each change does
-you have less polygons in total, so you've got to think more about where to spend them. This is super effective to learn about the budgeting I mentioned above.
Aside from that, keep in mind that very few people get to make 'hero' models that are on screen at large scale and for long duration. So you'll be more likely to work on XYZ enemy gun, or JKL environmental prop - which of course get a much smaller budget. And then still, you're likely to enter the business via a smaller studio, that works on smaller budgets, and which often aim for slightly older PC's to reach a larger audience.
So, as harsh as it may seem, I'm going to advise you to remodel this thing from square 1. Don't aim for 5000 triangles, 1000 should be plenty. Don't use 2048x1024, a 512² is enough for now. And if this sounds ridiculously low, the pump-action shotgun in Left 4 Dead is less than 1200 triangles. Post it on Polycount in the early stages, so we can give feedback early on in the process, rather than after you've almost finished.
[IMG][/img]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2150/hammerwireframe.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/456/renderwn.jpg
[IMG][/img]http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6748/wireframei.jpg
i still cant get the tags right for some reason. help? lol
also made the axe pointier
i know mine doesnt look exactly the same, but im trying to get the same idea