Internet Blacklist!
polycounter lvl 18
Anyone hear about this? Am I late? verify...
This is B.s. and I saw it coming as well as many others.
We all use the internets(lol) so I figured this was a valid post.
Source:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
If you care sign the petition and pass this info on:
http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/
Enjoy the debate!
This is B.s. and I saw it coming as well as many others.
We all use the internets(lol) so I figured this was a valid post.
Source:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
If you care sign the petition and pass this info on:
http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/
Enjoy the debate!
Replies
And also..
Im actually against the new proposals of making laws about internet privacy. It should be an anarchic place that you have to use wisely versus posting all your details shamelessly.
If we're completely honest, pirates will ALWAYS find a way around shit like this.
It wouldn't effect you directly but if a US based website you use gets blacklisted because of claimed copyright infringement and then they loose massive amounts of traffic because of the black list then they could go out of business and then your left without said website :poly121:
Just has to pass in the house of reps and senate again and then Bam let the blacklist commence
this is another stupid bill ive read about, the other is that one that has already passed a few teirs of votes that would effectively make it illegal to grow your own vegitables/farm. all veggies and fruits etc would become a matter of national security......how fucking stupid. read this if you feel like balking at human stupidity.....
http://noworldsystem.com/2010/04/28/new-senate-bill-prevents-you-from-growing-food/
this kinda shit drives me crazy and Im not even american.
No it doesnt seem to.
"Declares that a facility under the FFDCA does not include private residences of individuals"
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2749&tab=summary
Lets worry about the blacklist bill shall we?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/11/26/businessinsider-homeland-security-is-seizing-internet-domains-left-and-right-2010-11.DTL#ixzz16Q5g0FsQ
All my hip hop music sites disappeared before i noticed they were seizing everything up.
BitTorrent Search Engine is gone. I think all the torrent search engines will go down soon too
Yup. Apparently I woke up in China this morning.
This pisses me off so much.
http://rapgodfathers.com/
http://www.onsmash.com/
http://torrent-finder.com/
just died.
Welp. Guess my life is over.
I mean, piratebay is hosted in sweden or something, could they take down piratebay?
"Sensationalist headline aside, upon closer examination this all look OK to me. It went through the judicial process. A warrant was issued. Saying there were no prior complaints or notification is a strawman argument. Customs doesn't give advanced notice to someone before they knock down the door of their warehouse selling counterfeit merchandise. Why would the web site owner get prior notification? And how would he know if there had or had not been complaints? Louis Vuitton is going to complain to the authorities, not to some shady web site."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-is-seizing-internet-domains-left-and-right-2010-11#comments#ixzz16Rm4yS6l
Which is really counter-intuitive, because we should be protecting speech here in the states, not pushing people to other countries.
As for that quoted comment.. this allows them to *avoid* the courts, that's the whole point about it, it gives the corporations behind the legislation veto authority to get Federal Agencies involved. Look at what happened with PirateBay.. had this law been available back then they would have simply been shut down without the need for the show trials.
http://datenform.de/blog/dead-drops-preview/
On a lighter note, this is what file sharing will look like in the future
When they smell danger, they build wall around it... same here in France with gov "thiefs" stealing computers of "uncontrolled news website"..
What the heck has this country come to? Seriously worried for the future.
UK is still free
That's the keyword here, not for long with the ACTA... It's only a matter of time before world governments create law that mute the last free speech place that is the web.
It doesnt make much difference we never had free speech anyway(they are coming down on twitter). It was only a matter of time before they attacked the web. Its things like this though, that show that governments are blatantly corrupt, and not for the people.
Same thing is happening with supplements/vitamins in UK, Europe makes policy (note: not law ) which then gets synergised into UK law, as after all, it's too much effort to research and make careful consideration about these things.
Ruled by beurocracy, created by old people out of touch with whatever it is they're making the laws for in the first place. :P
I don't know how it goes in the rest of the world, but I can tell you one thing, in France, they perfectly know what they are doing: they create laws to enforce the visibility/market of the company where they (or a family member) have market shares... It's even the case with our president and his reform on the pensions sytem, trying to break it from the inside to give the market to Malakoff mederic, a company specialized in private pensions... Why ? Because he has family in the headquarters...
Like Calabi said, so corrupt it's sickening.
Its that kind of information they are trying to prevent going into the wild, that kind of information I got from the sites that got their computers stolen after the recent Karachi scandal they uncovered... don't make the mistake to think they are obsolete, they are at the top of the food chain...
I cant even sign the petition T_T, not in US
It will be interesting just how far they take it and just when and where society decides to draw the line.
Personally I'm all for cracking down on some torrent sites and enforcing some rules (I know... I'm standing by "the man" on this) but I don't think seizing domains is the right way to go. I think cleaning the sites of known illegal content when they're alerted to it would be in order. If no one complains about content then it would be fine to leave it up.
The original bill instead is much more big brother in that it would require all ISPs to block webtraffic to certain sites.
However. Upon what happened yesterday. If the said owners feel violated of their rights. I urge them to make a class action lawsuit on constitutional grounds.
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I am hoping that it doesn't last long.
You shouldn't be fine with it even if it's torrent sites, and even if you think torrents and file-sharing are evil.
This is a matter of principle. And in principle, I believe in freedom of speech, which means anyone can say anything at any point no matter if it's harmful or not, and even if it hurts corporations. For us to try and decide that certain things are cool and others are bad just opens a huge pandora's box. Who decides what's good and bad? Right now it doesn't concern us, because it's just torrents and we hate them. But in the future they may decide that violent video-games are bad and ban those by shutting down Steam. Seems far-fetched, I know, but that the government would censor the web at all seemed far-fetched just a few years ago. These things happen in small baby-steps.
Which is why I believe we should oppose it on principle, not on utility.
Yeah, I was trying on the run, not dismissing massive corruption too. :thumbup: