Lack of Fantasy RTS
Hello all. Nice and short, I've just got into RTS as my main genre of gaming now but I'm noticing some weird things while looking back at the classics.
Firstly, I'm noticing that most RTS today are doing a sort of RPG hero stat hybrid. I'm looking for a game that is, what I call, a "real rts", resource building, buildings, mustering an army. I thot that this was the ultimate term for an RTS but I'm seeing alot of hybrids and even some turn based mechanics.
Where do you need to look for the resource building stuff? Isn't that what an RTS should be?
Secondly, more importantly, I'm a HUGE fantasy fan, LOTR, Warhammer,ect. I basically really dislike Sci-Fi and Modern stuff. I will not go near Company of Heros even tho it is supposed to be good. I love warbands, dragons, magic, swords of flame....all that sort of nerdy stuff.
But I've just noticed that all of the fantasy RTS have actually stopped since 2006. BFEM2, Mark of Chaos, games like this were all released around 2006. Can somone please recommend a game that is very fantasy based that isn't the two Dota remakes Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends? I seriously tried to think hard about one and I couldn't.
Just until a week ago I was a mixed gamer, I'd play anything on PC. But I just realised how much I love the RTS genre and am kinda dedicated my gaming life to it now altho I have only played tiny demos. The only real sort of RTS I own and have completed is Dawn of War II and right now I've just bought, from Steam, Rome: Total War. I was born in '93 and I've only really just got into RTS so I'm having to download all of the old games.
Again, I'm looking for an RTS with real resource managment, base building. What I'd call a real rts.
Firstly, I'm noticing that most RTS today are doing a sort of RPG hero stat hybrid. I'm looking for a game that is, what I call, a "real rts", resource building, buildings, mustering an army. I thot that this was the ultimate term for an RTS but I'm seeing alot of hybrids and even some turn based mechanics.
Where do you need to look for the resource building stuff? Isn't that what an RTS should be?
Secondly, more importantly, I'm a HUGE fantasy fan, LOTR, Warhammer,ect. I basically really dislike Sci-Fi and Modern stuff. I will not go near Company of Heros even tho it is supposed to be good. I love warbands, dragons, magic, swords of flame....all that sort of nerdy stuff.
But I've just noticed that all of the fantasy RTS have actually stopped since 2006. BFEM2, Mark of Chaos, games like this were all released around 2006. Can somone please recommend a game that is very fantasy based that isn't the two Dota remakes Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends? I seriously tried to think hard about one and I couldn't.
Just until a week ago I was a mixed gamer, I'd play anything on PC. But I just realised how much I love the RTS genre and am kinda dedicated my gaming life to it now altho I have only played tiny demos. The only real sort of RTS I own and have completed is Dawn of War II and right now I've just bought, from Steam, Rome: Total War. I was born in '93 and I've only really just got into RTS so I'm having to download all of the old games.
Again, I'm looking for an RTS with real resource managment, base building. What I'd call a real rts.
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I'm gonna get SC II for sure, even if the campaign is full of space marines. My main beef with sci fi/modern is that there is actually too much off it and gets a little boring. I'm more about Sheilds, Swords, Honor and Strength ;P
I may get the original Starcraft.
I wish I was born in the 80's! lol
http://www.moddb.com/mods/third-age-total-war
Can you guys tell me about tactical map display type games? I've purchased the original dawn of war years ago but never completed it for some reason. Thats the kind of game I'm looking for in a fantasy setting. Just spawning, building troops/soldiers, plopping down buildings - awesome stuff - If you look at Rome : Total Wars map display tactical section would you say that this style of RTS is the ORGININAL recipe for an RTS? To me I think it'd be like warcraft III with real time battles and stuff.
I'm not sure what the term is called but it's a map you see in most RTS which you can end your turn - I think is saw 'risk-take' or 'risk-map' or something.
Which dominates? That sort of map thing of WarcraftIII/Dawn of War I gameplay.
Hopefully you guys know what I'm talking about..
Kinda like Rome Total War vs BFME2 skirmishes
I MUCH prefer the BFME2 gameplay and thats my definition of an RTS
Can anyone find a good gameplay video of it?
Is it resource building, warcraft style/dawn of war original game play style?
That'd be brilliant!!
No-building-required realtime strategy such as Company of Heroes or Dawn of War is kind of a new form of RTS. Particularly with the use of destructible and interactive environments, they've bred a whole new sort of play - that isn't based around efficient base building and resource micromanagement. Instead, it's becoming based on strategic placement of units, as in real battle strategy rather than mere efficiency and numbers. That is why I like the Total War series - it has a detailed nationbuilding side while still providing realtime battles.
Little question : Would you guys kind of agree that it feels like the real time base building, unti control of the likes of Warcraft and Dawn of war 1 is dissapearing? I never realised it until now but most RTS have that sort of tactical gameplay map thing which I kind of dislike.
BFMEII was pretty fun but a little short.
Rise of Legends was awesome. I don't know if it was just that I found the art style so captivating or what but I would highly recomend this game.
Also, as another refrence I used to play, as a multiplayer demo, tiberium wars for the 360 and altho it's sci fi thats also what I'm looking for. Again, real time building, spawning vehicles ect (in the case of Tiberium)
I refuse to believe that the real rts formula will go away. It can't.
Was looking at Armies of Exigo and thats how RTS' should be.
Age of Mythology just can't be topped. That game is just perfect.
Be warned, though - even on normal, it's very hard.